| James R |
http://snipurl.com/6psb
US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - A Florida businessman has filed suit against Atkins
Nutritionals, charging that the company's high-protein, low-carbohydrate
diet regimen caused his severe heart disease, which nearly killed him.
Jody Gorran filed the lawsuit against Atkins Nutritionals and the estate of
the late doctor Robert Atkins in a Palm Beach County, Florida court after
undergoing heart surgery that he claims was necessary to save his life from
the bad effects of the diet.
"I'm suing the Atkins empire because I want the public to know that the
Atkins diet may be killing people. I believe that the diet almost killed
me, by giving me heart disease," Gorran told reporters in Washington.
The Delray Beach, Florida businessman is seeking 15,000 dollars in
compensation, which he says will be given to charity, and is demanding that
health warnings be placed on all Atkins products.
Six months before starting the program, Gorran, now 53, underwent a heart
test which found him to be in excellent health, with no trace of plaque or
occlusion, according to cardiologist David Nash, head of the Syracuse
Preventive Cardiology Center in New York State.
Gorran followed the diet for two and a half years before being stricken
with angina. Tests revealed that one of his coronary arteries was 99
percent blocked.
He underwent surgery to open the blocked artery, and a stent was inserted
to keep the artery open. He stopped following the diet on the advice of his
doctors, and claims his unhealthy cholesterol levels dropped immediately.
Gorran is receiving legal counsel from the Physicians Committee for
Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a pro-vegetarian group, which raised the ire
of Atkins representatives.
Gina Mangiaracina, an Atkins spokeswoman, charged that the lawsuit "is just
for publicity.
"We should not let the real issue, providing people with a scientifically
validated nutritional choice in the face of a worldwide obesity and Type 2
diabetes epidemic, be manipulated by this extremist animal rights vegan
group," she said, referring to PCRM.
The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
carbohydrates.
According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
fat as fuel.
The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
~JR
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| Steve Wertz |
On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>Gorran is receiving legal counsel from the Physicians Committee for
>Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a pro-vegetarian group, which raised the ire
>of Atkins representatives.
A group of USDA Grade AA Kooks. They're almost as bad as PETA.
Err, wait - they *are* PETA.
>Gina Mangiaracina, an Atkins spokeswoman, charged that the lawsuit "is just
>for publicity.
Bingo.
-sw
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| spamfree@nospam.com |
On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>http://snipurl.com/6psb
>
>US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
>
>Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
>
>
>WASHINGTON (AFP) - A Florida businessman has filed suit against Atkins
>Nutritionals, charging that the company's high-protein, low-carbohydrate
>diet regimen caused his severe heart disease, which nearly killed him.
>
>Jody Gorran filed the lawsuit against Atkins Nutritionals and the estate of
>the late doctor Robert Atkins in a Palm Beach County, Florida court after
>undergoing heart surgery that he claims was necessary to save his life from
>the bad effects of the diet.
>
>"I'm suing the Atkins empire because I want the public to know that the
>Atkins diet may be killing people. I believe that the diet almost killed
>me, by giving me heart disease," Gorran told reporters in Washington.
>
>The Delray Beach, Florida businessman is seeking 15,000 dollars in
>compensation, which he says will be given to charity, and is demanding that
>health warnings be placed on all Atkins products.
>
>Six months before starting the program, Gorran, now 53, underwent a heart
>test which found him to be in excellent health, with no trace of plaque or
>occlusion, according to cardiologist David Nash, head of the Syracuse
>Preventive Cardiology Center in New York State.
>
>Gorran followed the diet for two and a half years before being stricken
>with angina. Tests revealed that one of his coronary arteries was 99
>percent blocked.
>
>He underwent surgery to open the blocked artery, and a stent was inserted
>to keep the artery open. He stopped following the diet on the advice of his
>doctors, and claims his unhealthy cholesterol levels dropped immediately.
>
>Gorran is receiving legal counsel from the Physicians Committee for
>Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a pro-vegetarian group, which raised the ire
>of Atkins representatives.
>
>Gina Mangiaracina, an Atkins spokeswoman, charged that the lawsuit "is just
>for publicity.
>
>"We should not let the real issue, providing people with a scientifically
>validated nutritional choice in the face of a worldwide obesity and Type 2
>diabetes epidemic, be manipulated by this extremist animal rights vegan
>group," she said, referring to PCRM.
>The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
>carbohydrates.
>
>According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
>the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
>fat as fuel.
>
>The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
>foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
>theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
>
>~JR
>
It's about time !!!!
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| Kswck |
<spamfree@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ccrfb0dt2k9b4lcum13ubcmii16c29ith2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>
> >http://snipurl.com/6psb
> >
> >US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
> >
> >Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
> >
> >
> >WASHINGTON (AFP) - A Florida businessman has filed suit against Atkins
> >Nutritionals, charging that the company's high-protein, low-carbohydrate
> >diet regimen caused his severe heart disease, which nearly killed him.
> >
> >Jody Gorran filed the lawsuit against Atkins Nutritionals and the estate
of
> >the late doctor Robert Atkins in a Palm Beach County, Florida court after
> >undergoing heart surgery that he claims was necessary to save his life
from
> >the bad effects of the diet.
> >
> >"I'm suing the Atkins empire because I want the public to know that the
> >Atkins diet may be killing people. I believe that the diet almost killed
> >me, by giving me heart disease," Gorran told reporters in Washington.
> >
> >The Delray Beach, Florida businessman is seeking 15,000 dollars in
> >compensation, which he says will be given to charity, and is demanding
that
> >health warnings be placed on all Atkins products.
> >
> >Six months before starting the program, Gorran, now 53, underwent a heart
> >test which found him to be in excellent health, with no trace of plaque
or
> >occlusion, according to cardiologist David Nash, head of the Syracuse
> >Preventive Cardiology Center in New York State.
> >
> >Gorran followed the diet for two and a half years before being stricken
> >with angina. Tests revealed that one of his coronary arteries was 99
> >percent blocked.
> >
> >He underwent surgery to open the blocked artery, and a stent was inserted
> >to keep the artery open. He stopped following the diet on the advice of
his
> >doctors, and claims his unhealthy cholesterol levels dropped immediately.
> >
> >Gorran is receiving legal counsel from the Physicians Committee for
> >Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a pro-vegetarian group, which raised the ire
> >of Atkins representatives.
> >
> >Gina Mangiaracina, an Atkins spokeswoman, charged that the lawsuit "is
just
> >for publicity.
> >
> >"We should not let the real issue, providing people with a scientifically
> >validated nutritional choice in the face of a worldwide obesity and Type
2
> >diabetes epidemic, be manipulated by this extremist animal rights vegan
> >group," she said, referring to PCRM.
> >The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
> >carbohydrates.
> >
> >According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
> >the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
> >fat as fuel.
> >
> >The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
> >foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
> >theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
> >
> >~JR
> >
>
Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
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| JimLane |
Kswck wrote:
> <spamfree@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ccrfb0dt2k9b4lcum13ubcmii16c29ith2@4ax.com...
>
>>On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://snipurl.com/6psb
>>>
>>>US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
>>>
>>>Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
>>>
>>>
>>>WASHINGTON (AFP) - A Florida businessman has filed suit against Atkins
>>>Nutritionals, charging that the company's high-protein, low-carbohydrate
>>>diet regimen caused his severe heart disease, which nearly killed him.
>>>
>>>Jody Gorran filed the lawsuit against Atkins Nutritionals and the estate
>
> of
>
>>>the late doctor Robert Atkins in a Palm Beach County, Florida court after
>>>undergoing heart surgery that he claims was necessary to save his life
>
> from
>
>>>the bad effects of the diet.
>>>
>>>"I'm suing the Atkins empire because I want the public to know that the
>>>Atkins diet may be killing people. I believe that the diet almost killed
>>>me, by giving me heart disease," Gorran told reporters in Washington.
>>>
>>>The Delray Beach, Florida businessman is seeking 15,000 dollars in
>>>compensation, which he says will be given to charity, and is demanding
>
> that
>
>>>health warnings be placed on all Atkins products.
>>>
>>>Six months before starting the program, Gorran, now 53, underwent a heart
>>>test which found him to be in excellent health, with no trace of plaque
>
> or
>
>>>occlusion, according to cardiologist David Nash, head of the Syracuse
>>>Preventive Cardiology Center in New York State.
>>>
>>>Gorran followed the diet for two and a half years before being stricken
>>>with angina. Tests revealed that one of his coronary arteries was 99
>>>percent blocked.
>>>
>>>He underwent surgery to open the blocked artery, and a stent was inserted
>>>to keep the artery open. He stopped following the diet on the advice of
>
> his
>
>>>doctors, and claims his unhealthy cholesterol levels dropped immediately.
>>>
>>>Gorran is receiving legal counsel from the Physicians Committee for
>>>Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a pro-vegetarian group, which raised the ire
>>>of Atkins representatives.
>>>
>>>Gina Mangiaracina, an Atkins spokeswoman, charged that the lawsuit "is
>
> just
>
>>>for publicity.
>>>
>>>"We should not let the real issue, providing people with a scientifically
>>>validated nutritional choice in the face of a worldwide obesity and Type
>
> 2
>
>>>diabetes epidemic, be manipulated by this extremist animal rights vegan
>>>group," she said, referring to PCRM.
>>>The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
>>>carbohydrates.
>>>
>>>According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
>>>the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
>>>fat as fuel.
>>>
>>>The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
>>>foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
>>>theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
>>>
>>>~JR
>>>
>>
>
> Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
> 'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>
>
Of course, my question is" did he seek out the vegan group? More like
the vegans sought him out to push their political agenda.
And, of course, we need another law to protect the terminally stupid
from themselves.
jim
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| Blair P. Houghton |
Kswck <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
flaw in the diet. This suit may be predatory, but it's
not frivolous.
And the astroturfing from the Atkins corporate hydra has
been thick enough that I'm willing to bet they're scared
****less about it.
--Blair
"Maybe we'll find out if Cholesterol
is really bad for us."
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| WardNA |
>>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>
>No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
>by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
>flaw in the diet.
If so, he hadn't the wit to act on those insights until after he had adopted
the diet and advocated it publicly. Perhaps he can include himself as a
defendant, if he can prove that he led himself astray. Even if he doesn't,
perhaps the copycat suits will.
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| Blair P. Houghton |
WardNA <wardna@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>>>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>>
>>No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
>>by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
>>flaw in the diet.
>
>If so, he hadn't the wit to act on those insights until after he had adopted
>the diet and advocated it publicly. Perhaps he can include himself as a
>defendant, if he can prove that he led himself astray. Even if he doesn't,
>perhaps the copycat suits will.
I would do it the way he did. Assume the position of one who
believes what the program tells him to. And then assume the
position of one made indignant through betrayal.
--Blair
"It's a tort, but it ain't Raspberry."
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| sf |
On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:06:07 GMT, "Kswck" <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
>
><spamfree@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:ccrfb0dt2k9b4lcum13ubcmii16c29ith2@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>>
>> >The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
>> >carbohydrates.
>> >
>> >According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
>> >the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
>> >fat as fuel.
>> >
>> >The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
>> >foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
>> >theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
>> >
>> >~JR
>> >
>>
>
>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
Of course, you know you're supposed to consult a doctor before
beginning ANY diet regimen??? More importantly, most of these
so-called diets are okay in the short run (a great way to get
started), but have their problems in the long run.
After Jim Fix died of a heart attack, I'm not willing to say anything
is a panacea!
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| smithfarms pure kona |
On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:30:07 -0700, sf <sf@pipeline.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:06:07 GMT, "Kswck" <kswck@optonline.net>
wrote:
>
>>
>><spamfree@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:ccrfb0dt2k9b4lcum13ubcmii16c29ith2@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>>>
>Of course, you know you're supposed to consult a doctor before
>beginning ANY diet regimen??? More importantly, most of these
>so-called diets are okay in the short run (a great way to get
>started), but have their problems in the long run.
>
>After Jim Fix died of a heart attack, I'm not willing to say anything
>is a panacea!
As a long time runner and marathoner and now marathon walker, most of
us feel Jim Fixx would have died much earlier if he hadn't exercised
at all. I read his book (beautiful legs on the cover jacket) decades
ago and vaguely remember that his father died much earlier than Jim
did. I think he would have hated people to remember he died in his
50's (I think) and that all his aerobic efforts were for not. Just my
$.02.
aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
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| Janice |
On Sun, 30 May 2004 07:46:36 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:
>Kswck <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>
>No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
>by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
>flaw in the diet. This suit may be predatory, but it's
>not frivolous.
Not too predatory, only seeking $15,000 in damages. I'm sure his
heart surgery was more..maybe his part was $15,000. dunno
Janice
>
>And the astroturfing from the Atkins corporate hydra has
>been thick enough that I'm willing to bet they're scared
>****less about it.
>
> --Blair
> "Maybe we'll find out if Cholesterol
> is really bad for us."
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| notbob |
On 2004-05-29, JimLane <ensenadajim@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And, of course, we need another law to protect the terminally stupid
> from themselves.
.....and jerks too inconsiderate to trim their posts.
nb
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| Doug Freyburger |
James R quoted:
>
> http://snipurl.com/6psb
> US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
> Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
Suing over a diet works better if you actually attempt to follow
its directions. Here's the Atkins response:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/5/28-354036.html
Is anyone shocked the guy wasn't actually following the directions?
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| Peter Aitken |
"Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7960d3ee.0406011110.321bc42e@posting.google.com...
> James R quoted:
> >
> > http://snipurl.com/6psb
> > US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
> > Thu May 27, 2:23 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!
>
> Suing over a diet works better if you actually attempt to follow
> its directions. Here's the Atkins response:
>
> http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/5/28-354036.html
>
> Is anyone shocked the guy wasn't actually following the directions?
I for one am not at all surprised. This is not uncommon - even journalists
who are writing about the diet often have the facts wrong. The most common
misconception is that while on Atkins you can eat an unlimited amount of
saturated fats. This is simply false but many people believe it.
--
Peter Aitken
Remove the crap from my email address before using.
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| LadySycamore |
Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Kswck <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>
>
> No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
> by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
> flaw in the diet. This suit may be predatory, but it's
> not frivolous.
>
> And the astroturfing from the Atkins corporate hydra has
> been thick enough that I'm willing to bet they're scared
> ****less about it.
>
> --Blair
> "Maybe we'll find out if Cholesterol
> is really bad for us."
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/18-590441.html
The only reason I'll support Atkins is because soon I'll *have* to go on
a modified Atkins diet (espeically made for renal/diabetic patients).
Plus, not all diets work for everyone. Christ, if everyone sued every
diet plan because it didn't work..well, talk about crowded courtrooms.
I just think ppl have become too sue-happy over stuff nowdays. We'll see
how this goes.
--
~LadySycamore~
Co-Administrator
dialyze.org: For renal patients by renal patients
http://dialyze.org/forums/index.php
El Ciberbosque:
"Sycamore's next step in the quest for world domination"
http://www.ciberbosque.org/index.php
These are uncertain times. Thank goodness you're such a rock. Now don't
be mad if everyone else isn't. You can only expect so much from mere
mortals.
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| LadySycamore |
sf wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:06:07 GMT, "Kswck" <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>><spamfree@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:ccrfb0dt2k9b4lcum13ubcmii16c29ith2@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Atkins program advocates a diet high in protein at the expense of
>>>>carbohydrates.
>>>>
>>>>According to Atkins's theories, eating virtually no carbohydrates causes
>>>>the body to enter a state known as ketosis, in which it uses stored body
>>>>fat as fuel.
>>>>
>>>>The unique selling point is that if dieters stick to certain types of
>>>>foods, principally meat, fish, eggs and dairy products, they can
>>>>theoretically eat as much as they want and yet still shed weight.
>>>>
>>>>~JR
>>>>
>>>
>>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read as
>>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
>
>
> Of course, you know you're supposed to consult a doctor before
> beginning ANY diet regimen??? More importantly, most of these
> so-called diets are okay in the short run (a great way to get
> started), but have their problems in the long run.
>
> After Jim Fix died of a heart attack, I'm not willing to say anything
> is a panacea!
Thanks for bringing that up! Perfect example of someone doing "all the
right things" and he STILL died from heart failure.
--
~LadySycamore~
Co-Administrator
dialyze.org: For renal patients by renal patients
http://dialyze.org/forums/index.php
El Ciberbosque:
"Sycamore's next step in the quest for world domination"
http://www.ciberbosque.org/index.php
These are uncertain times. Thank goodness you're such a rock. Now don't
be mad if everyone else isn't. You can only expect so much from mere
mortals.
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| Fred |
"LadySycamore" <ladysyc69@nevermind.com> wrote in message
news:Bl7wc.12570$Yd3.6239@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
> > Kswck <kswck@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Another idiot that didn't do his homework before starting a diet. <read
as
> >>'ask your doctor BEFORE starting a fad diet>.
> >
> >
> > No, it's pretty clear this guy did do his homework,
> > by studying Atkins' literature and seeing the enormous
> > flaw in the diet. This suit may be predatory, but it's
> > not frivolous.
> >
> > And the astroturfing from the Atkins corporate hydra has
> > been thick enough that I'm willing to bet they're scared
> > ****less about it.
> >
> > --Blair
> > "Maybe we'll find out if Cholesterol
> > is really bad for us."
>
>
> http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/18-590441.html
>
> The only reason I'll support Atkins is because soon I'll *have* to go on
> a modified Atkins diet (espeically made for renal/diabetic patients).
>
> Plus, not all diets work for everyone. Christ, if everyone sued every
> diet plan because it didn't work..well, talk about crowded courtrooms.
>
> I just think ppl have become too sue-happy over stuff nowdays. We'll see
> how this goes.
>
> --
> ~LadySycamore~
> Co-Administrator
> dialyze.org: For renal patients by renal patients
> http://dialyze.org/forums/index.php
>
> El Ciberbosque:
> "Sycamore's next step in the quest for world domination"
> http://www.ciberbosque.org/index.php
>
> These are uncertain times. Thank goodness you're such a rock. Now don't
> be mad if everyone else isn't. You can only expect so much from mere
> mortals.
>
It may be interesting to note that the plaintiff is supported by a group
supported by PETA which is always opposing meat eating. I think it's pretty
political. Good cooking.
Fred
Foodie Forums
http://www.foodieforums.com
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| Steve Wertz |
On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:42:46 GMT, "James R" <nosp@m.pls> wrote:
>http://snipurl.com/6psb
>
>US businessman files suit against Atkins diet program
He's on Nightline or one of those news shows tonight. People on
the West coast probably still have time to see it.
-sw
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