| mvp102400@webtv.net |
Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
@cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because
you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep
some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
cake? Thank you, Mari
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| H. W. Hans Kuntze |
mvp102400@webtv.net wrote:
>Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
>@cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because=
>you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep=
>some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
>moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
>who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
>cake? Thank you, Mari
>
Good thinking Mari.
But why would Plasticwrap (Saran, etc.) be bad with alcohol in this=20
dilution, Mari?
It is sold for drinking in plastic bottles and as rubbing alcohol (much=20
higher proof) too.
I don't think it will be bad for your cake. Plastc-wrap first and=20
alu-wrap after.
That way it is tight.
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| graham |
<mvp102400@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3922-401EB255-46@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net...
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> Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
> @cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because
> you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep
> some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
> moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
> who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
> cake? Thank you, Mari
>
Make sure you use Saran rather than other plastic wraps as this one won't
react as readily with the fats in the cake as will others.
Graham
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| Roy Basan |
mvp102400@webtv.net wrote in message news:<3922-401EB255-46@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>...
> Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
> @cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because
> you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep
> some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
> moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
> who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
> cake? Thank you, Mari
I do not see any chemical reaction,solvent effect and leaching of the
polymer components from the plastic due to dissolution in ethanol from
the whiskey.
Roy
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| Wayne Boatwright |
rbasan7@hotmail.com (Roy Basan) wrote in
news:95b037df.0402022034.3952f477@posting.google.com:
> mvp102400@webtv.net wrote in message
> news:<3922-401EB255-46@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>...
>> Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
>> @cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy
>> because you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would
>> like to keep some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey
>> (the cake is very moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic
>> wrap. Will someone who knows their chemistry please tell me the
>> best way to freeze this cake? Thank you, Mari
>
> I do not see any chemical reaction,solvent effect and leaching of the
> polymer components from the plastic due to dissolution in ethanol from
> the whiskey.
>
> Roy
>
I bake about 30 pounds of fruitcake each year. After the cakes have been
allowed to mature (with repeated dowsings of brandy and rum), they are
really quite moist, almost wet. Before freezing, I wrap them directly in
numerous layers of plastic wrap, then in heavy duty foil. I have kept
them frozen for sometimes over a year. Regardless of storage time, I
have never noticed any flavor alteration of any type. AFAIK, there is no
interaction between the liquors and the plastic.
Wayne
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| Betsy |
"H. W. Hans Kuntze" <hans@chef.net> wrote in message news:<bvmcun$ubs31$1@ID-201876.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> mvp102400@webtv.net wrote:
>
> >Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
> >@cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because
>
> >you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep
>
> >some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
> >moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
> >who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
> >cake? Thank you, Mari
> >
> Good thinking Mari.
>
> But why would Plasticwrap (Saran, etc.) be bad with alcohol in this
> dilution, Mari?
>
> It is sold for drinking in plastic bottles and as rubbing alcohol (much
> higher proof) too.
>
> I don't think it will be bad for your cake. Plastc-wrap first and
> alu-wrap after.
> That way it is tight.
I beg to differ with you on one point. Rubbing alcohol is not the
same as drinking alcohol. Drinking alcohol is ethanol. Rubbing
alcohol is isopropanol, which is quite bad for humans to ingest.
Almost-pure ethanol is available (Ever-Clear), and can be drunk, but
is not rubbing alcohol.
But, yes, plastic won't be affected by alcohol in a cake.
Polyethylene does not leach into food the same as other plastic wraps,
but it is mainly heat and fat that cause the leaching.
betsy
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| Roy Basan |
w_betsy@hotmail.com (Betsy) wrote in message news:<d963b646.0402101229.2841d42b@posting.google.com>...
> "H. W. Hans Kuntze" <hans@chef.net> wrote in message news:<bvmcun$ubs31$1@ID-201876.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > mvp102400@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > >Made a big cake soaked in bourbon from a recipe I found on the web
> > >@cooks.com called Irish Whiskey Cake. It is very good and easy because
>
> > >you start with cake mix & vanilla instant pudding. I would like to keep
>
> > >some in the freezer but I'm not sure if the whiskey (the cake is very
> > >moist) will not have a bad effect on the plastic wrap. Will someone
> > >who knows their chemistry please tell me the best way to freeze this
> > >cake? Thank you, Mari
> > >
> > Good thinking Mari.
> >
> > But why would Plasticwrap (Saran, etc.) be bad with alcohol in this
> > dilution, Mari?
> >
> > It is sold for drinking in plastic bottles and as rubbing alcohol (much
> > higher proof) too.
> >
> > I don't think it will be bad for your cake. Plastc-wrap first and
> > alu-wrap after.
> > That way it is tight.
>
>
> I beg to differ with you on one point. Rubbing alcohol is not the
> same as drinking alcohol. Drinking alcohol is ethanol. Rubbing
> alcohol is isopropanol, which is quite bad for humans to ingest.
> Almost-pure ethanol is available (Ever-Clear), and can be drunk, but
> is not rubbing alcohol.
>
I think what Hans is implying here that whatever alcohol is bottled in
plastic bottles , its stable.
I donot think that he mean that isopropyl alcohol is used in baking.
But ethanol can also be used as rubbing alcohol but would be
expensive probably( than ispropanol) because of the excise tax on such
alcohol.
IIRC the original rubbing alcohol was made from ethyl alcohol.
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| Brian Macke |
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:29:27 -0800, Betsy wrote:
> I beg to differ with you on one point. Rubbing alcohol is not the same
> as drinking alcohol. Drinking alcohol is ethanol. Rubbing alcohol is
> isopropanol, which is quite bad for humans to ingest. Almost-pure
> ethanol is available (Ever-Clear), and can be drunk, but is not rubbing
> alcohol.
Though that is a nice segue into the first time I bought 190 proof
Everclear and brought it home. I ended up putting it in a plastic bag.
Some Everclear leaked out of the bottle and melted parts of the plastic
bag. It was mildly disturbing, though I haven't experimented with it
enough to know if it'd eat through Saran Wrap.
(I don't drink the stuff, BTW. I use it as a disinfectant for equipment
that can't be put through a dishwasher.)
> betsy
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-Brian James Macke macke@strangelove.net
"In order to get that which you wish for, you must first get that which
builds it." -- Unknown
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