| JJ |
I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
carbos are good for you.
However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
like to know if this:
a. A real unit of measure.
b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
Thank you, Thank you very much.
Jay the Pig
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| Denise~* |
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:01:23 GMT, jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com (JJ)
wrote:
>I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
>that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>
>Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
>calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
>carbos are good for you.
>
>However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
>like to know if this:
>
>a. A real unit of measure.
>b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
>c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
>
>Thank you, Thank you very much.
>
>Jay the Pig
A
It's real & been around longer that Atkins, TV land & probably you.
Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...
A true friend will be sitting next to you saying,
"Damn...that was fun!"
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| Michael Odom |
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:01:23 GMT, jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com (JJ)
wrote:
>I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
>that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>
>Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
>calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
>carbos are good for you.
>
>However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
>like to know if this:
>
>a. A real unit of measure.
>b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
>c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
>
>Thank you, Thank you very much.
>
>Jay the Pig
Yo, pig,
Nice name you got there! It's my impression that 3 carbs refers to 3
grams of carbohydrates per serving. Better watch them serving sizes
though.
modom
"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore
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| Christopher Green |
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:01:23 GMT, jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com (JJ)
wrote:
>I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
>that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
It's short for a real quantity: 1 "carb" = 1 gram of nutritive
carbohydrate. It's used in carbohydrate-restricted diets such as
Atkins, of course. But you'll have to ask someone versed in Atkins
jargon what a "net carb" is.
--
Chris Green
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| JJ |
Michael Odom <modom@un-koyote.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:01:23 GMT, jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com (JJ)
>>Jay the Pig
>Yo, pig,
>Nice name you got there! It's my impression that 3 carbs refers to 3
>grams of carbohydrates per serving. Better watch them serving sizes
>though.
>
>modom
Hey Modom, thanks for the clarification. I'm also checking out the
recent "caja china" pig roasting thread.
Jay, the cannibal pig
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| Nancree |
>Subject: Re: what kind of unit is a "carb"
--------------------
Basically, it is a tricky way of listing carbohydrates on packaged food, or
fast food. Makes you think that some carbs are more ok than others. Here's
some more info on "net carbs".
When a Carb's Not a Carb: The Net Carb Debate .
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/92/101603.htm
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| Peter Aitken |
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"JJ" <jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4117f590.49367062@news2.flex.com...
> I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
> that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>
> Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
> calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
> carbos are good for you.
>
> However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
> like to know if this:
>
It is slang for a gram of digestible carbohydrate.
The idea that complex carbs are good for you is seriously out of date. Each
complex carb molecule is made up of multiple sugar molecules joined together
in one more complex molecule. When you eat it, your digestion very quickly
breaks it down into the individual sugars which are then absorbed into your
blood. In fact, eating some complex carbs such as mashed potato can raise
your sugar level faster than eating the same amount of pure sugar. When
blood sugar goes up so does insulin, and it is these raised insulin levels
that are thought to be part of many problems such as deposition of fat and
increase of "bad" cholesterol.
The basis of the low carb diets that have become so popular is based on
limiting your insulin swings by limiting the amout of carbs you eat and also
by slowing the absorption of carbs (if they are absorbed more slowly insulin
will not go as high). Absorption is slowed mainly by lots of fiber (carbs
that are not digestible).
--
Peter Aitken
Remove the crap from my email address before using.
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| Peter Aitken |
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"Nancree" <nancree@aol.comnonono> wrote in message
news:20040809073316.26478.00003517@mb-m03.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: what kind of unit is a "carb"
>
> --------------------
> Basically, it is a tricky way of listing carbohydrates on packaged food,
or
> fast food. Makes you think that some carbs are more ok than others.
Here's
> some more info on "net carbs".
> When a Carb's Not a Carb: The Net Carb Debate .
> http://my.webmd.com/content/article/92/101603.htm
It's a perfectly valid measure, nothing tricky about it. It's simply total
carbs less fiber carbs. Since you do not digest fiber, those carbs have no
effect on your blood sugar and insulin levels. It's the other carbs, the
ones you do digest, that affect these things.
--
Peter Aitken
Remove the crap from my email address before using.
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| Dimitri |
"JJ" <jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4117f590.49367062@news2.flex.com...
> I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
> that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>
> Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
> calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
> carbos are good for you.
>
> However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
> like to know if this:
>
> a. A real unit of measure.
> b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
> c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
>
> Thank you, Thank you very much.
>
> Jay the Pig
carbohydrate
A broad category of sugars, starches, fibers and starchy vegetables that the
body eventually converts to glucose, the body's primary source of energy.
There are two classes of carbohydrates - simple and complex. Simple
carbohydrates are the sugars, which include GLUCOSE and FRUCTOSE from fruits
and vegetables, SUCROSE from beet or cane sugar and LACTOSE from milk.
Simple carbohydrates are absorbed by the body very quickly. Complex
carbohydrates include starches and fiber and are most commonly found in
whole grains and LEGUMES. Complex carbohydrates, which are generally large
chains of glucose molecules, take longer to digest and provide more
nutrients than simple carbohydrates.
© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.
Dimitri
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| Phred |
In article <7ZLRc.961$ZC7.461@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@nosprodigy.net> wrote:
>"JJ" <jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4117f590.49367062@news2.flex.com...
>> I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
>> that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>>
>> Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
>> calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
>> carbos are good for you.
>>
>> However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
>> like to know if this:
>> a. A real unit of measure.
>> b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
>> c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
>
>carbohydrate
>A broad category of sugars, starches, fibers and starchy vegetables that the
>body eventually converts to glucose, the body's primary source of energy.
>There are two classes of carbohydrates - simple and complex. Simple
>carbohydrates are the sugars, which include GLUCOSE and FRUCTOSE from fruits
>and vegetables, SUCROSE from beet or cane sugar and LACTOSE from milk.
>Simple carbohydrates are absorbed by the body very quickly. Complex
>carbohydrates include starches and fiber and are most commonly found in
>whole grains and LEGUMES. Complex carbohydrates, which are generally large
>chains of glucose molecules, take longer to digest and provide more
>nutrients than simple carbohydrates.
>© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
>LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.
Some of that last bit sounds like crap to me. What do they mean by
"more nutrients"? Carbohydrate is carbohydrate, whether "simple" or
"complex". Have a squiz at
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fi...bohydrates.html
for some formulae and discussion of sugars and polysaccharides.
I suspect, if "more nutrients" has any real meaning, the authors of
Barron's are referring to the *other* compounds (proteins, fats,
minerals) found in the sources of complex carbohydrates mentioned,
compared with the lack of these in *refined* simple sugar products.
Cheers, Phred.
--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
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| JJ |
"Peter Aitken" <paitken@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote:
>"JJ" <jayjayjpg@nadasppam-yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs"
>
>It is slang for a gram of digestible carbohydrate.
Hmmm...are slang words for protein and fat also coming into vogue?
Something like "prots" and....um...err..."fats" <slaps forehead/makes
3 stooges sound>
>The idea that complex carbs are good for you is seriously out of date. Each
>complex carb molecule is made up of multiple sugar molecules joined together
>in one more complex molecule. When you eat it, your digestion very quickly
>breaks it down into the individual sugars which are then absorbed into your
>blood. In fact, eating some complex carbs such as mashed potato can raise
>your sugar level faster than eating the same amount of pure sugar.
I am obviously not a nutritional expert. I do believe that a diet
higher in whole grains, legumes, vegetables and fruits than meat and
fat is the right path. I happen to also love bacon, sausage, bbq,
etc.
I'll look into the latest takes on the various "-coses" and their
role in nutrition.
Thanks!
Jay the cannibal pig
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| Bob (this one) |
JJ wrote:
> I'm seeing these references on the boob tube about fast food items
> that "only have 3 carbs" etc.
>
> Hey, I paid attention in science class, I know the definitions of
> calorie, kilo calorie, BTU, and the like. I also know that complex
> carbos are good for you.
>
> However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs" and I would
> like to know if this:
>
> a. A real unit of measure.
> b. An Atkins pseudo-unit
> c. A teevee land fakeO-unit.
>
> Thank you, Thank you very much.
>
> Jay the Pig
Jay, it's an obsolete term. But here's a conversion factor: 8 American
carbs = 1 fuel injection system. Or in Japan, 4 carbs = 1 fuel
injection system. It can also be 6 or 10 or 12. But that's metric.
Some people mistakenly think it substitutes for "3 grams of carbohydrate."
Pastorio
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| Doug Freyburger |
JJ wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
> JJ wrote:
>
> > > However, I don't know what is represented by "3 carbs"
>
> > It is slang for a gram of digestible carbohydrate.
Very much like "$1.999 Gal" is slang in the US for how much a
gallon of gasoline costs. It's something recognized by plenty
of people but not by all.
> Hmmm...are slang words for protein and fat also coming into vogue?
"Exchange". That slang has been in vogue for a long time and
is neither losing nor gaining ground.
> Something like "prots" and....um...err..."fats" <slaps forehead/makes
> 3 stooges sound>
If "fat" had 4 syllables, there would certainly by a shortened
form of it in common usage. Chuckle.
I've encountered fat gram counters who just used the word
"gram" in their counts and you had to figure out they meant
fat grams.
> > The idea that complex carbs are good for you is seriously
> > out of date.
Simplifies down to "there is too such a thing as too much of
a good thing". Folks heard that broccoli counted as "complex
carbs" so they searched around for other stuff that counted
as "complex carbs". Then they started overeating mashed
potatoes and pasta. Somewhere along the line of that
reasoning, someone went "duh, potatoes aren't brocolli" and
the low carb movement became popular as a reaction against
the excess.
> I am obviously not a nutritional expert. I do believe that a diet
> higher in whole grains, legumes, vegetables and fruits than meat and
> fat is the right path.
"A" right path. "The" has a specific meaning that doesn't work
in figuring out healthy foods. There is no "one true way" like
that.
> I happen to also love bacon, sausage, bbq, etc.
Have larger amounts of veggies than those and you're on Atkins. ;^)
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