| Siobhan Perricone |
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:53:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>I'm just getting used to this as it is only 1 week from when I diagnosed.
>Want things my way as much as possible; just so's I am more comfortable
>with my new diease. You know, "I want the red teddy not the blue one" kinda
>mentality...but it works for me.
Ooo Welcome to the club! I've been diagnosed for two years this December.
What was your A1c at diagnosis?
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Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar
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| hahabogus |
Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@tds.net> wrote in
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> What was your A1c at diagnosis?
>
What does that mean?
--
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- Michael Odom
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@tds.net> wrote in
>news:q2bpj0d4bbghqutlcgnjtcmofr29b71gps@4ax.com:
>
>> What was your A1c at diagnosis?
>>
>
>What does that mean?
It's a test that measures your average blood sugar over the past three
months.
Carol
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| hahabogus |
Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
news:iptpj012j39hvo7id3e90cj0lck80uuaji@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@tds.net> wrote in
>>news:q2bpj0d4bbghqutlcgnjtcmofr29b71gps@4ax.com:
>>
>>> What was your A1c at diagnosis?
>>>
>>
>>What does that mean?
>
> It's a test that measures your average blood sugar over the past three
> months.
>
> Carol
>
Oh! Be slow and patient with us virgin (8/30/04 one week today) type 2's...
It was 7.2 in Canadian talk, or ((7.2) X 18) = 129.6 in American talk. I
phased out when they told the names for these...something about Canadians
using the molie (pronounce mole-E) system, mmol/L VS American mg/dL.
Apparently up here above 7.0 or 126 is a diagnosis of type2.
Since I must go thru denile; I believe my 3 root canals in July played a
part in this. Apparently infections raise blood sugar levels. Gonna see if
the Doc buys into this on the 15th.
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Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:38:40 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>Oh! Be slow and patient with us virgin (8/30/04 one week today) type 2's...
>
> It was 7.2 in Canadian talk, or ((7.2) X 18) = 129.6 in American talk. I
>phased out when they told the names for these...something about Canadians
>using the molie (pronounce mole-E) system, mmol/L VS American mg/dL.
>Apparently up here above 7.0 or 126 is a diagnosis of type2.
I believe that 126 is the magic number here, too. You were a 7.2 on
diagnoses. When I had my first a1c done, it was over 14.0. And my blood
sugar level was in the 400's. You're fortunate. Lose a little weight,
watch your carbs, and you may be able to manage your diabetes very well
without medications.
>Since I must go thru denile; I believe my 3 root canals in July played a
>part in this. Apparently infections raise blood sugar levels. Gonna see if
>the Doc buys into this on the 15th.
I still go through denial, and I believe I was diagnosed in 2001. I'm in
denial now, although I'm eating a salad with no dressing for dinner. <G>
You'll do great, Alan.
Carol
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| hahabogus |
Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
news:0s6qj0t2hb2omuk31sugs9ku8nsif2vtvp@4ax.com:
> I believe that 126 is the magic number here, too. You were a 7.2 on
> diagnoses. When I had my first a1c done, it was over 14.0. And my blood
> sugar level was in the 400's. You're fortunate. Lose a little weight,
> watch your carbs, and you may be able to manage your diabetes very well
> without medications.
>
>
Sure somebody's always worst or is that wurst...damn sausage thread...
Reminds me of a party line conversation over-heard in my youth...Which my
reply was..."My finger was so infected they had to cut my body off to save
it." Shut those old biddies up...quiet as a pin, then they hung up.
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- Michael Odom
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:56:45 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
>news:0s6qj0t2hb2omuk31sugs9ku8nsif2vtvp@4ax.com:
>
>> I believe that 126 is the magic number here, too. You were a 7.2 on
>> diagnoses. When I had my first a1c done, it was over 14.0. And my blood
>> sugar level was in the 400's. You're fortunate. Lose a little weight,
>> watch your carbs, and you may be able to manage your diabetes very well
>> without medications.
>
>Sure somebody's always worst or is that wurst...damn sausage thread...
I'm just pointing this out so you'll know that you're one of the lucky
ones. I've tried going off my meds after losing a bunch of weight, but no
go. I'm on them for life - or until I have to take insulin.
When I was diagnosed, I was drinking and peeing 2 gallons of water a day,
and I was blind. Couldn't see a thing, either with or without my glasses.
See? You're very fortunate.
>Reminds me of a party line conversation over-heard in my youth...Which my
>reply was..."My finger was so infected they had to cut my body off to save
>it." Shut those old biddies up...quiet as a pin, then they hung up.
I *must* remember that story! <chuckle>
Carol
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| Gabby |
"Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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> When I was diagnosed, I was drinking and peeing 2 gallons of water a day,
> and I was blind. Couldn't see a thing, either with or without my glasses.
Sounds like my husband 9 years ago. He'd go to bed and line up water
bottles on the windowsill to last him the night, and eventually had to
suspend his work as an air traffic controller when he couldn't see the
planes. Although all of us who were familiar with diabetes told him he was
diabetic, the doctor just sent him for new glasses! This in spite of
elevated blood sugars and the sores that didn't heal. I still shake my head
in disbelief.
By the time diabetes was diagnosed some months later, he was so miserable
that he stuck to his diet like glue to start feeling better. His sight
returned and he was able to go back to work.
But once he started feeling better he convinced himself that there was
nothing at all wrong with him. 9 years later, he has gained back the 45 lb
he'd lost, doesn't follow his diet and is taking the max. dosage of
Metformin & another drug. His controller's licence has been revoked for
medical reasons. He's in such denial that it didn't even occur to him that
'you're taking the max. dosage of oral hypoglycemics' meant 'the next step
is insulin injections'.
Gabby
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| kilikini |
"Gabby" <Lavolanges@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
> news:r0jqj0pj30aqfurqbb2smlgo3se8gcc7bf@4ax.com...
>
> > When I was diagnosed, I was drinking and peeing 2 gallons of water a
day,
> > and I was blind. Couldn't see a thing, either with or without my
glasses.
>
> Sounds like my husband 9 years ago. He'd go to bed and line up water
> bottles on the windowsill to last him the night, and eventually had to
> suspend his work as an air traffic controller when he couldn't see the
> planes. Although all of us who were familiar with diabetes told him he
was
> diabetic, the doctor just sent him for new glasses! This in spite of
> elevated blood sugars and the sores that didn't heal. I still shake my
head
> in disbelief.
>
> By the time diabetes was diagnosed some months later, he was so miserable
> that he stuck to his diet like glue to start feeling better. His sight
> returned and he was able to go back to work.
>
> But once he started feeling better he convinced himself that there was
> nothing at all wrong with him. 9 years later, he has gained back the 45
lb
> he'd lost, doesn't follow his diet and is taking the max. dosage of
> Metformin & another drug. His controller's licence has been revoked for
> medical reasons. He's in such denial that it didn't even occur to him
that
> 'you're taking the max. dosage of oral hypoglycemics' meant 'the next step
> is insulin injections'.
>
> Gabby
>
>
Oh Gabby! No! I'm sorry. I had a roommate go through early stages of
diabetes and try to correct it. He did for the first 6 months and then
said, forget it. Now, he still goes out, drinks like a fish and eats like a
glutton. The doctor said the only thing that's saving him are his pills.
Why don't they learn?
I'm sorry honey. I feel for your situation. I really do.
kili
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| Gabby |
"kilikini" <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dmf%c.37607$aB1.23171@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
> "Gabby" <Lavolanges@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:10jr0b0hcgtdf1f@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Damsel in dis Dress" <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
message
> > news:r0jqj0pj30aqfurqbb2smlgo3se8gcc7bf@4ax.com...
> >
> > > When I was diagnosed, I was drinking and peeing 2 gallons of water a
> day,
> > > and I was blind. Couldn't see a thing, either with or without my
> glasses.
> >
> > Sounds like my husband 9 years ago. He'd go to bed and line up water
> > bottles on the windowsill to last him the night, and eventually had to
> > suspend his work as an air traffic controller when he couldn't see the
> > planes. Although all of us who were familiar with diabetes told him he
> was
> > diabetic, the doctor just sent him for new glasses! This in spite of
> > elevated blood sugars and the sores that didn't heal. I still shake my
> head
> > in disbelief.
> >
> > By the time diabetes was diagnosed some months later, he was so
miserable
> > that he stuck to his diet like glue to start feeling better. His sight
> > returned and he was able to go back to work.
> >
> > But once he started feeling better he convinced himself that there was
> > nothing at all wrong with him. 9 years later, he has gained back the 45
> lb
> > he'd lost, doesn't follow his diet and is taking the max. dosage of
> > Metformin & another drug. His controller's licence has been revoked for
> > medical reasons. He's in such denial that it didn't even occur to him
> that
> > 'you're taking the max. dosage of oral hypoglycemics' meant 'the next
step
> > is insulin injections'.
> >
> > Gabby
> >
> >
>
> Oh Gabby! No! I'm sorry. I had a roommate go through early stages of
> diabetes and try to correct it. He did for the first 6 months and then
> said, forget it. Now, he still goes out, drinks like a fish and eats like
a
> glutton. The doctor said the only thing that's saving him are his pills.
> Why don't they learn?
>
> I'm sorry honey. I feel for your situation. I really do.
The thing is, he's only ever known one person with diabetes -- a family
friend on insulin (a nurse who likes her Chivas Regal) who treats it just
like he does and seems to be doing fine. I, OTOH, have seen it kill my
grandfather & my uncle (who first went blind and then lost both feet) so I
want to slap him when I see how he doesn't take care of himself.
As spouses & friends we were told, during a 4 day seminar for newly
diagnosed diabetics, to refrain from commenting on their diet and medical
compliance, that it was their problem to deal with, not ours. But to me,
watching my husband slowly kill himself IS my problem and one I have a hard
time keeping my mouth shut about.
Gabby
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| Siobhan Perricone |
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 07:01:21 -0300, "Gabby" <Lavolanges@msn.com> wrote:
>As spouses & friends we were told, during a 4 day seminar for newly
>diagnosed diabetics, to refrain from commenting on their diet and medical
>compliance, that it was their problem to deal with, not ours. But to me,
>watching my husband slowly kill himself IS my problem and one I have a hard
>time keeping my mouth shut about.
I was very fortunate. My husband was diagnosed three months before I was.
His attitude was "Oh, I have this? Ok. Oh, I have to eat less carbs and
start walking more? Ok" and he just did it. He read everything he could
about it (found a great book about it), learned what he needed to learn to
control it and his BG was down to normal with meds and exercise in three
months. So when I got diagnosed I had his great example and we'd already
started making dietary changes. So I just started doing it too. I never
needed meds 'cos mine was caught very early (because I get quarterly
bloodwork for other reasons).
After six months he stopped taking his meds. We've both been in control
ever since. We just use walking and diet to keep us there. Frank's A1c has
been under 5.9 since six months into this, and our doctor says that our A1c
tests (which we get every three months) have been the most consistent that
she's ever seen, and she's never seen anyone get a grip on their diabetes
so fast as my husband did.
I attribute it all to his fantastic outlook. He totally skipped denial and
went right to the practical "This is what I have to do? Ok" then did it. :)
--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar
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| Siobhan Perricone |
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>> What was your A1c at diagnosis?
>
>What does that mean?
An A1c test is a test that tells the doctor what your glucose levels have
been on average for the last three months or so (weighted towards the last
four weeks).
There's a great book for you to read: The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes by
Gretchen Becker.
She's got diabetes and she got really tired of the fact that she couldn't
find a good resource that explained all this in a way she could understand.
So she researched it and wrote it up herself.
It's the book that really helped Frank get a grip on his diabetes right
off. I strongly recommend you get it and start reading it. :)
*hugs* Just feel free to ask me any questions (privately via email if you
prefer) and I'll be happy to answer. :)
--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar
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| hahabogus |
Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@tds.net> wrote in
news:37arj0lnq74cd51fo3kmu7383rb7uii3c9@4ax.com:
> She's got diabetes and she got really tired of the fact that she
> couldn't find a good resource that explained all this in a way she
> could understand. So she researched it and wrote it up herself.
>
> It's the book that really helped Frank get a grip on his diabetes
> right off. I strongly recommend you get it and start reading it. :)
>
> *hugs* Just feel free to ask me any questions (privately via email if
> you prefer) and I'll be happy to answer. :)
>
Thanks for the advice....I ordered the book today...All I seem to do is
send away for stuff (and prick my fingers). Nothing has come as of yet
except a good Book Damsel reccomended on controling Blood Sugar. Awaiting
a bathroom scale, a mess of Lo-carb supplies including nutrition guides and
cookbooks (for meal ideas) and a mess of sugar free sweetner stuff. I
believe just removing the sugar from my diet will cause some weight loss as
I was a white sugar addict. Being sugar-free, low-carbing and some
additional exercise should be all I need to do, hopefully. This is all
coming together slowly for me but should be in effect at least by the 20th.
A biggie question I have concerns the SR-17 USDA downloadable nutrition
guide stand alone database (for Access or excell)....what does carbohydrate
(by difference) mean and how does this relate to the info on product boxes?
That brings up another thing I need to remember to do...read nutrition on
all labels (take reading glasses to store...a must). The changes I must
make are mostly easy ones...but all at once....there are so many of them!
--
Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:57:10 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>Thanks for the advice....I ordered the book today...All I seem to do is
>send away for stuff (and prick my fingers). Nothing has come as of yet
>except a good Book Damsel reccomended on controling Blood Sugar. Awaiting
>a bathroom scale, a mess of Lo-carb supplies including nutrition guides and
>cookbooks (for meal ideas) and a mess of sugar free sweetner stuff.
I hope you ordered Dana Carpender's _500 Low-Carb Recipes_. Her recipes
actually ARE low-carb, and they're good. Her Heroin Wings (because they're
so addictive) are legendary.
Carol
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| Gabby |
"hahabogus" <not@valid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns955D5B2B27DA1notvalidinvalid@127.0.0.1...
> A biggie question I have concerns the SR-17 USDA downloadable nutrition
> guide stand alone database (for Access or excell)....what does
carbohydrate
> (by difference) mean and how does this relate to the info on product
boxes?
I get the impression from one of your post that you're in Canada. If you
are using the 'exchange' method of planning your diet, you should be aware
that, unless things changed in the past few years, the exchanges for the US
and for Canada are not interchangeable. Using a cookbook sponsored by the
US Diabetes Association with a diet plan based on a Canadian exchange plan
may cause a problem.
Gabby
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| J.J. in WA |
Our pal hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
> news:iptpj012j39hvo7id3e90cj0lck80uuaji@4ax.com:
> > On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
> >>Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@tds.net> wrote in
> >>news:q2bpj0d4bbghqutlcgnjtcmofr29b71gps@4ax.com:
> >>> What was your A1c at diagnosis?
> >>What does that mean?
> > It's a test that measures your average blood sugar over the past three
> > months.
> Oh! Be slow and patient with us virgin (8/30/04 one week today) type 2's...
>
> It was 7.2 in Canadian talk, or ((7.2) X 18) = 129.6 in American talk. I
> phased out when they told the names for these...something about Canadians
> using the molie (pronounce mole-E) system, mmol/L VS American mg/dL.
> Apparently up here above 7.0 or 126 is a diagnosis of type2.
Lesse, I was diagnosed as Type 2 last February with an A1C of 9.0. I
had it rechecked in May, and it was down to 5.1. Diet, exercise and
my big white pills (sigh). I need to get another test done, now that
Small Child is back in school.
> Since I must go thru denile; I believe my 3 root canals in July played a
> part in this. Apparently infections raise blood sugar levels. Gonna see if
> the Doc buys into this on the 15th.
It's true -- one thing the medicos asked me repeatedly in the beginning
was if I'd had any dental work done. T'was not the problem in my case,
but it could have affected you...
--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF
(COLD to HOT for e-mail)
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Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
news:7lirj0tuhrhd9ok3mfc3f1o3q26g97d5ol@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:57:10 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the advice....I ordered the book today...All I seem to do
>>is send away for stuff (and prick my fingers). Nothing has come as of
>>yet except a good Book Damsel reccomended on controling Blood Sugar.
>>Awaiting a bathroom scale, a mess of Lo-carb supplies including
>>nutrition guides and cookbooks (for meal ideas) and a mess of sugar
>>free sweetner stuff.
>
> I hope you ordered Dana Carpender's _500 Low-Carb Recipes_. Her
> recipes actually ARE low-carb, and they're good. Her Heroin Wings
> (because they're so addictive) are legendary.
>
> Carol
>
Damn! something else to order...
--
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- Michael Odom
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| hahabogus |
"Gabby" <Lavolanges@msn.com> wrote in
news:10jrn7h9g849u1e@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "hahabogus" <not@valid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns955D5B2B27DA1notvalidinvalid@127.0.0.1...
>
>> A biggie question I have concerns the SR-17 USDA downloadable
>> nutrition
>> guide stand alone database (for Access or excell)....what does
> carbohydrate
>> (by difference) mean and how does this relate to the info on product
> boxes?
>
> I get the impression from one of your post that you're in Canada. If
> you are using the 'exchange' method of planning your diet, you should
> be aware that, unless things changed in the past few years, the
> exchanges for the US and for Canada are not interchangeable. Using a
> cookbook sponsored by the US Diabetes Association with a diet plan
> based on a Canadian exchange plan may cause a problem.
>
> Gabby
>
>
>
I'm not going to use the exchange method....either of them. I plan on using
a low carb Diet plan.
--
Last year's nuts must go.
- Michael Odom
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:38:32 GMT, byakee@COLDmail.com (J.J. in WA) wrote:
>Our pal hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>> Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote in
>> news:iptpj012j39hvo7id3e90cj0lck80uuaji@4ax.com:
>> > On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:02 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Oh! Be slow and patient with us virgin (8/30/04 one week today) type 2's...
>>
>> It was 7.2 in Canadian talk, or ((7.2) X 18) = 129.6 in American talk. I
>> phased out when they told the names for these...something about Canadians
>> using the molie (pronounce mole-E) system, mmol/L VS American mg/dL.
>> Apparently up here above 7.0 or 126 is a diagnosis of type2.
>
>Lesse, I was diagnosed as Type 2 last February with an A1C of 9.0. I
>had it rechecked in May, and it was down to 5.1. Diet, exercise and
>my big white pills (sigh). I need to get another test done, now that
>Small Child is back in school.
>> Since I must go thru denile; I believe my 3 root canals in July played a
>> part in this. Apparently infections raise blood sugar levels. Gonna see if
>> the Doc buys into this on the 15th.
>
>It's true -- one thing the medicos asked me repeatedly in the beginning
>was if I'd had any dental work done. T'was not the problem in my case,
>but it could have affected you...
I didn't have dental work done. I took Prednisone for months to treat my
asthma. The doctors say that it was the Prednisone that actually caused my
diabetes. I'm Type 2, but there's a subset of that for medication-induced
diabetes, too.
Carol
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> I didn't have dental work done. I took Prednisone for months to treat my
> asthma. The doctors say that it was the Prednisone that actually caused my
> diabetes.
I am here to tell you, if some doctor idly writes out a prescription
for steroids, run as fast as you can. I seriously regret filling
that prescription.
nancy
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Nancy Young wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>
>>I didn't have dental work done. I took Prednisone for months to treat my
>>asthma. The doctors say that it was the Prednisone that actually caused my
>>diabetes.
>
>
> I am here to tell you, if some doctor idly writes out a prescription
> for steroids, run as fast as you can. I seriously regret filling
> that prescription.
>
> nancy
Just as aside here:
I find of all the drugs available Prednisone is really the drug of choice.
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:47:15 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
>I'm not going to use the exchange method....either of them. I plan on using
>a low carb Diet plan.
That's my boy! Your lipid profile should astonish your doctor after 3-6
months.
Oh, and enjoy the cookbook. <G>
Carol
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| Damsel in dis Dress |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:40:51 -0400, Nancy Young <qwerty@monmouth.com>
wrote:
>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> I didn't have dental work done. I took Prednisone for months to treat my
>> asthma. The doctors say that it was the Prednisone that actually caused my
>> diabetes.
>
>I am here to tell you, if some doctor idly writes out a prescription
>for steroids, run as fast as you can. I seriously regret filling
>that prescription.
So do I, although it did get my two year, ongoing asthma attack under
control. Now I take preventive medication (Advair), and I seldom use my
inhaler. Pollen is really bad right now, so I'm using the inhaler a lot
more than usual.
What happened when you took it, Nancy? If you don't want to answer, that's
quite alright by me.
Carol
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> What happened when you took it, Nancy? If you don't want to answer, that's
> quite alright by me.
Thank you. I only took it for a week and I developed extreme
distended abdomen, quite painful, and hallucinations. All this
for a sinus problem. Never. Again. I'll never be the same.
nancy (no nagging!)
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Nancy Young wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>
>>What happened when you took it, Nancy? If you don't want to answer, that's
>>quite alright by me.
>
>
> Thank you. I only took it for a week and I developed extreme
> distended abdomen, quite painful, and hallucinations. All this
> for a sinus problem. Never. Again. I'll never be the same.
>
> nancy (no nagging!)
Steroids are *serious* business! I know a man with gout
who'd rather take steroids than pain meds. I think he's
nuts! He also declines to take the uric acid inhibitor med
or the med that helps the uric acid pass out of your
systerm...fear of taking meds! Yet takes those damn steroids
when he gets a gout attack. <shakes head in dismay>
Goomba
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| Nancy Young |
Goomba38 wrote:
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> Nancy Young wrote:
> > Thank you. I only took it for a week and I developed extreme
> > distended abdomen, quite painful, and hallucinations. All this
> > for a sinus problem. Never. Again. I'll never be the same.
> Steroids are *serious* business! I know a man with gout
> who'd rather take steroids than pain meds. I think he's
> nuts! He also declines to take the uric acid inhibitor med
> or the med that helps the uric acid pass out of your
> systerm...fear of taking meds! Yet takes those damn steroids
> when he gets a gout attack. <shakes head in dismay>
If someone said, either take these steroids or you'll be dead in
3 months, I would put my affairs in order. Goodbye to my family
and friends. No kidding.
nancy
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hahabogus <not@valid.invalid>
news:Xns955D7801170BCnotvalidinvalid@127.0.0.1:
> "Gabby" <Lavolanges@msn.com> wrote in
> news:10jrn7h9g849u1e@corp.supernews.com:
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>> "hahabogus" <not@valid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns955D5B2B27DA1notvalidinvalid@127.0.0.1...
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>>> A biggie question I have concerns the SR-17 USDA downloadable
>>> nutrition
>>> guide stand alone database (for Access or excell)....what does
>> carbohydrate
>>> (by difference) mean and how does this relate to the info on product
>> boxes?
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>> I get the impression from one of your post that you're in Canada. If
>> you are using the 'exchange' method of planning your diet, you should
>> be aware that, unless things changed in the past few years, the
>> exchanges for the US and for Canada are not interchangeable. Using
>> a cookbook sponsored by the US Diabetes Association with a diet plan
>> based on a Canadian exchange plan may cause a problem.
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>> Gabby
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> I'm not going to use the exchange method....either of them. I plan on
> using a low carb Diet plan.
>
I'm sorry to hear about the disease. Like anything that is controllable a
good diet and excercise are usually a must. I have to go back to heart
healthy shortly. I've gained enough weight and hit goal. Now I gotta take
care of the ticker.
Michael
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"I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house
and four people died.
-Steven Wright
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| Siobhan Perricone |
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:57:10 GMT, hahabogus <not@valid.invalid> wrote:
> A biggie question I have concerns the SR-17 USDA downloadable nutrition
>guide stand alone database (for Access or excell)....what does carbohydrate
>(by difference) mean and how does this relate to the info on product boxes?
The first, most important thing to remember is that different people have
different reactions to different foods. So you need to spend a while (Frank
and I spent a good three or four months) experimenting with foods and how
they impacted your glucose levels. Because no matter what any dietician
tells you, the reality is, diabetes is different for everyone, and they can
give you general guidelines, but it's up to you to figure out your own
particular idiosyncracies.
For example, I can't really eat french fries much without walking a great
deal afterwards. They just hammer my glucose something terrible. But pizza
I have no problem with at all. Frank gets high readings on both fries and
pizza, but is able to eat more fruits than I am without much of a blip.
You learn what foods impact you through testing. When we first started
out, we tested first thing when we woke up (actually, we still do that
every day, your fasting glucose number is the best determination for how
well you're really controlling your diabetes). A fasting BG of under 130
should be a goal, though it's not likely you'll get there right off.
Then, if breakfast isn't right away, I'd test just before breakfast. Then
I'd eat breakfast and just as I started eating, set a timer for 2 hours.
Note what you had for breakfast, and how many carbs it has (more on this in
a minute 'cos it actually answers your question above). Test again when the
timer goes off, that tells you what your 2 hr post prandial BG is. This
should be under 130, if you've got good control (sorry, not sure what the
conversion for that is for you). This tells you how much the food you had
at breakfast has impacted your BG. You can repeat this process with every
meal for a while, testing after different foods and different activity
levels.
One trick Frank and I found is that if we walk steadily for 10 to 15
minutes around an hour after we eat, it greatly reduces our BG reading at 2
hours post prandial. Also, it gives you the exercise you're supposed to be
getting. :)
So about fiber. The reason I brought the other stuff up first is because
what I'm saying now is very much "YMMV". Generally speaking, the body
doesn't process fiber in the same way it processes other carbohydrates
(fiber is a carbohydrate, but it's not something we are able to digest
readily). As a result, grams of fiber carbs don't generally impact people's
blood glucose levels.
In the United States, they include the amount of fiber *with* the total
carbs on packaging. In Europe (and possibly Canada, I've not asked around)
the fiber grams are listed separately from the other carbohydrates. So if
the fiber is included in the total carbs on a package, subtract the grams
of fiber from the total grams of carbs and that gives you the "net carbs"
of the particular food. "Net carbs" is the amount of carbs that are most
likely to impact your BG. I've found it to work consistently as a rule of
thumb, and I don't find that fiber carbs impact my BG at all. But I've
read from other people that this rule of thumb doesn't work for them (I
have to admit a certain skepticism and suspicion that they might not be
testing on this properly, but I'm not in a position to say that for
certain), so that's why you need to do your own testing.
The fact is, the reason fiber is good to have is *because* it's not
digested. It's good for your colon because it helps clean things out. If
it's not digested, it never makes it to your blood stream, therefore it is
physically impossible for it to have a direct impact on your BG. Which is
why I'm not completely convinced that the people who claim fiber raises
their BG aren't confusing it with something else. :) That doesn't mean,
however, that there isn't something else going on with these individuals
that is leading to a spike that somehow corrolates to but is not caused by
the presence of fiber in a food item.
Anyway, I'm digressing.
The USDA database has been massively helpful to me, and I highly recommend
it, just remember to test for yourself and get out there and walk after
your meals. It's good for you! :)
--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar
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