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Ignoramus23157
``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.

Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
''

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc
menu boy

"Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
> ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
>
> Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."


So essentially 91 years of animal abuse. Thanks for clarifying the point.


rick etter

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> "Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message

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> > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> >
> > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."

>
> So essentially 91 years of animal abuse. Thanks for clarifying the point.

==========================
Compared to the abuse you heap on animals? What a hypocrite, killer.


menu boy

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> > "Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message

> news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> > > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> > > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> > >
> > > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."

> >
> > So essentially 91 years of animal abuse. Thanks for clarifying the point.

> ==========================
> Compared to the abuse you heap on animals? What a hypocrite, killer.
>

Hey Rick, I just don't give a ****. But, I know you do....cause you post here.


Steve
Ignoramus23157 wrote:
> ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
>
> Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> ''
>
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc


91 is not a bad run. Imagine how much longer she could have been if she
was into healthier food.

Steve

menu boy

"Steve" <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote in message news:cfjmmd08ao@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Ignoramus23157 wrote:
> > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> >
> > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> > ''
> >
> > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc

>
> 91 is not a bad run. Imagine how much longer she could have been if she
> was into healthier food.
>
> Steve


LMAO, that's really funny. My meat eating, smoking grandpa on my
dad's side lived to be 91.


rick etter

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> > > > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S.

television

> > > > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > > > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her

sleep
> > > > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> > > >
> > > > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > > > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> > >
> > > So essentially 91 years of animal abuse. Thanks for clarifying the

point.
> > ==========================
> > Compared to the abuse you heap on animals? What a hypocrite, killer.
> >

> Hey Rick, I just don't give a ****. But, I know you do....cause you post

here.
====================
Thanks for proving you're just hot air and BS, and that killing animals
unnecessarily is all you strive for.


>
>



menu boy

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> > > news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > > > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S.

> television
> > > > > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > > > > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her

> sleep
> > > > > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> > > > >
> > > > > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > > > > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> > > >
> > > > So essentially 91 years of animal abuse. Thanks for clarifying the

> point.
> > > ==========================
> > > Compared to the abuse you heap on animals? What a hypocrite, killer.
> > >

> > Hey Rick, I just don't give a ****. But, I know you do....cause you post

> here.
> ====================
> Thanks for proving you're just hot air and BS, and that killing animals
> unnecessarily is all you strive for.
>

That's great. Your insecurities are mindnumbingly apparent.
I really hope you take care of that "thing" that's caused you
to go from human to ****heap. I understand that it's not
you...I mean, you, yourself, and I'm willing to understand
you plight of "wherethe****ami??". After all, it's you that
makes us so me.
I think of you.......heh......when I poo.

Yo, Rick, I'm ready.

Be good,

jzw


Ignoramus23157
In article <cfjmmd08ao@enews3.newsguy.com>, Steve wrote:
> Ignoramus23157 wrote:
>> ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
>> cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
>> French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
>> at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
>>
>> Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
>> Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
>> ''
>>
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc

>
> 91 is not a bad run. Imagine how much longer she could have been if she
> was into healthier food.


That's an interesting point of view!

Some amusing facts about dead longevity experts...

America's most acclaimed longevity specialist - author of How To Get Well
and How to Keep Slim, Healthy and Young With Juice Fasting - had died of a
stroke at 64. This was more than a decade short of 74.5, the average age of
male mortality.
Next cab off the rank, in 1985, was Nathan Pritikin - who suicided as
leukemia overtook him, at 69. Australian health writer Ross Horne, a friend
of Pritikin's, says he would have lived years longer had he only embraced
'Man's natural diet', fruitarianism.
T.C. Fry - leader of the Natural Hygiene movement in the US - did exactly
this, when ill-health hit him in his late sixties. He even died a
fruitarian: at the age of 70, of a pulmonary embolism.
Jim Fixx founded the jogging cult in the USA,
with his 1977 Complete Book of Running . One chapter is a scorching
repudiation of a Playboy article titled Jogging Can Kill You .In 1984 Jim
Fixx was felled by a heart attack as he jogged through the
streets near his home. He was 52.
The author JI Rodale - founder of Prevention magazine - had a more
comprehensive answer to the problem of heart disease, and other illnesses.
He preached a spectrum of minerals and vitamins, and an organic diet. I
asked American raw food writer Bob Avery how Rodale's story ended:
"He died of a heart attack during taping of the Dick Cavett TV talk show,
shortly after he had completed his interview. He was 72. During the
interview he stated his intention to live to 100. The talk show host
thought he had dozed off in his chair."
George Ohsawa, inventor of Macrobiotics ("the way of long life") had a more
comprehensive approach still: embodying spiritual as well as nutritional
values. He expired of lung cancer at 73.
Adelle Davis sold ten million copies of 'Let's Eat Right' and a string of
other best-sellers through the 1960s and 1970s. Davis came from the 'high
protein' generation which preceded today's high carbohydrate orthodoxy. She
used to say she had never seen anyone die of cancer who drank a quart of
milk a day, as she did. Adelle Davis died of cancer in 1974, aged 70. The
average age of female
mortality is 81.
Britain's Sir Francis Chichester, lone sailor and fitness book author, died
of spinal cancer in 1972, aged 70. American health author Dr Stuart Berger,
who advocated vitamins, minerals and exercise, died of a heart attack at 40.
Roy Walford, a scientist researching and practicing calorie restriction -- a
theory suggesting that eating less dramatically increases life expectancy --
died at 69, reportedyl of Advanced Lateral Sclerosis.
Robert Atkins, a promoter of low carbohydrate, high fat diets, died at
70 years of age after falling on an icy sidewalk.
Steve
Ignoramus23157 wrote:
> Some amusing facts about dead longevity experts...
>
> America's most acclaimed longevity specialist - author of How To Get Well
> and How to Keep Slim, Healthy and Young With Juice Fasting - had died of a
> stroke at 64. This was more than a decade short of 74.5, the average age of
> male mortality.


Paavo Airola


> Next cab off the rank, in 1985, was Nathan Pritikin - who suicided as
> leukemia overtook him, at 69.


He started off with cancer and put together his diet as he researched
things to better his lot.


> Australian health writer Ross Horne, a friend
> of Pritikin's, says he would have lived years longer had he only embraced
> 'Man's natural diet', fruitarianism.
> T.C. Fry - leader of the Natural Hygiene movement in the US - did exactly
> this, when ill-health hit him in his late sixties. He even died a
> fruitarian: at the age of 70, of a pulmonary embolism.


70 is still a respectable life span.

> Jim Fixx founded the jogging cult in the USA,
> with his 1977 Complete Book of Running . One chapter is a scorching
> repudiation of a Playboy article titled Jogging Can Kill You .In 1984 Jim
> Fixx was felled by a heart attack as he jogged through the
> streets near his home. He was 52.


Not fair. He had a congenital heart defect.



> George Ohsawa, inventor of Macrobiotics ("the way of long life") had a more
> comprehensive approach still: embodying spiritual as well as nutritional
> values. He expired of lung cancer at 73.


I read some of his stuff, it was nutty.

> Roy Walford, a scientist researching and practicing calorie restriction -- a
> theory suggesting that eating less dramatically increases life expectancy --
> died at 69, reportedyl of Advanced Lateral Sclerosis.


Again, not fair, he had this disease before his regime. It may have
given him more time then he would have had otherwise.


> Robert Atkins, a promoter of low carbohydrate, high fat diets, died at
> 70 years of age after falling on an icy sidewalk.


He he. His illegally published autoposy showed to be very overweight,
even accounting for the bloating from medical complications the lawyers
for the Atkins corporation claims to explain it. Supposedly the
autoposy also showed advanced arterioscherlosis.

Interesting post.

Steve

Ignoramus17574
In article <cfklga021to@enews3.newsguy.com>, Steve wrote:
> Ignoramus23157 wrote:
>> Roy Walford, a scientist researching and practicing calorie restriction -- a
>> theory suggesting that eating less dramatically increases life expectancy --
>> died at 69, reportedyl of Advanced Lateral Sclerosis.

>
> Again, not fair, he had this disease before his regime. It may have
> given him more time then he would have had otherwise.


No, actually, Walford started his calorie restriction regime while
confined to the Biosphere project, a project that set up a closed
environment for men to try to live completely independently from the
outside world. He got his ALS shortly thereafter.

CR regimen does not help with ALS, as mice experiments by Mark Mattson
showed.

>
>> Robert Atkins, a promoter of low carbohydrate, high fat diets, died at
>> 70 years of age after falling on an icy sidewalk.

>
> He he. His illegally published autoposy showed to be very overweight,
> even accounting for the bloating from medical complications the lawyers
> for the Atkins corporation claims to explain it. Supposedly the
> autoposy also showed advanced arterioscherlosis.


I have not seen any references to atheriosclerosis in his autopsy
(perhaps I missed something), but yes, it makes sense that he became
bloated due to water retention in the hospotal. I saw his pre-death
pictures, he looked like a fit 70 year old.

i
John Coleman
> 91 is not a bad run. Imagine how much longer she could have been if she
> was into healthier food.
>
> Steve


I think gerentologists suggest that longevity after 70 is more genetically
determined than lifestyle, not that lifestyle isn't still very important. I
guess if you make it past 70, your lifestyle isn't too bad and you are
geneticaly tough enough to press on further. So long as cells are well
nourished and not too toxic, they will go on. One reason we see female meat
eaters do better is because they menstruate and release excess iron from
their blood half their life. Men who donate blood regularly also live
longer, probably because they lower their iron stores.

My father made it to 89, had a terrible bad health, numerous chronic
diseases and took a barage of drugs most his life. Quality of life is a much
more important variable than quantity. This article says nothing of the meat
eaters quality of life, what she had wrong with her, her daily pains or
whatever. There is a good book about this obsession with quantity "Zen and
the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...08855?v=glance.

Population studies reveal far more than individual cases. Everyone has an
aunt or someone they know who lived an unhealthy life until they were 90
something, but these people are not average Westerners. Most of them grew up
as kids only eating "organic" food, less and better meat and in a less
polluted world, and they didn't have 20-30 vaccines by the age of 5 and so
forth.

John


Ray

"Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message
news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
> ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
>
> Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> ''
>
>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc

Hey!

Forget the diet for a moment.
Could it have been connected with the bottle of gin?

Cheers!


Ignoramus8954
In article <cfr1s3$9i4$1@titan.btinternet.com>, Ray wrote:
>
> "Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message
> news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
>> ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
>> cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
>> French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
>> at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
>>
>> Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
>> Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
>> ''
>>
>>

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...people_child_dc
>
> Hey!
>
> Forget the diet for a moment.
> Could it have been connected with the bottle of gin?


it could even be connected to her irreverent attitude!

i
Ray Audette
"Ray" <ray@syntex.com> wrote in message news:<cfr1s3$9i4
> > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."


> Forget the diet for a moment.
> Could it have been connected with the bottle of gin?
>


It could certainly not been the red meat.
see:
Johnson, Mary Ann,
"The Georgia Centenarian Study: Nutritional Patterns of
Centenarians."
The International Journal of Aging & Human Development Vol. 34(1)
(1992) 57-76.

These two studies by the University of Georgia Medical School explain
that hundred-year-olds typically eat high animal fat diets. The first
U.S-only study was replicated world-wide because the doctors didn't
beleive the results the first time!

But the results do jive with the statistical increase in lifespan as a
result of modern inventions. Since the 1850s when the invention of
the railroad made red meat ( beef, pork, lamb)affordable to the
average man, lifespan has increased from the mid-forties to the
late-seventies. Medical and hygenic advances have added at the most 5
years of lifespan during this time according to statisticians. The
statistical further increase shown when refrigeration added chicken to
the mix in the early 20th century makes your refrigerator the second
most important invention for increasing lifespan and puts the medical
profession a distant statistical third.

Of course, according to Indian Medical publications, vegetarians have
a 10 times risk of heart attack in their 30s and a 313 times risk of
heart attack in their 20s even though they have fewer other risk
factors ( smoking, sedintary lifestyle,etc). Kind of hard to beat
those odds.

Ray Audette
Author"NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com
Tracey

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> "Ignoramus23157" <ignoramus23157@NOSPAM.23157.invalid> wrote in message
> news:cfjid8$j7u$0@pita.alt.net...
> > ``NEW YORK (Reuters) - Julia Child, the grande dame of U.S. television
> > cooking shows whose operatic voice and irreverent attitude brought
> > French haute cuisine into America's humble kitchens, died in her sleep
> > at her California home on Friday at the age of 91.
> >
> > Asked by a radio interviewer once what her ultimate meal would be,
> > Child said: "Red meat and a bottle of gin."
> > ''
> >
> >

>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../20040813/ts_nm
/people_child_dc
>
> Hey!
>
> Forget the diet for a moment.
> Could it have been connected with the bottle of gin?
>
> Cheers!


A gin & tonic a day keeps the doctor away.....;o)

Tracey




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