| Mash |
Have gone totally Mac after purchasing the new Mini Mac. Am in love.
The computer is fast (we did upgrade memory etc. during the initial
purchase) and installed Virtual PC so I can run my Mastercook 6.xx.
4.xx will only work on System 9.xx and below from what I understand.
I've always used System 8.xx or 9.xx at home or at work.
The big plus for the Mac is:
Ease of dumping files into the trash. No more missing "links".
Less exposure to viruses/trojans/worms. Still have antivirus software
installed.
Better color values.
Smooth operating system with less system failures.
I'm Mac proud and am glad that Apple has brought out the Mac Mini which
allows you to use existing hardware at home. You just need to buy the
hard drive.
Mary
Proud owner of an iMac and a Mac Mini
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| Melba's Jammin' |
In article <1112020569.095548.292990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mash" <MAsh317@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm Mac proud and am glad that Apple has brought out the Mac Mini which
> allows you to use existing hardware at home. You just need to buy the
> hard drive.
I think what you're mostly buying is the Macintosh operating system in
its box.
--
-Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Arizona vacation pics added 3-24-05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.
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| Dan Abel |
In article <1112020569.095548.292990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Mash"
<MAsh317@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have gone totally Mac after purchasing the new Mini Mac. Am in love.
> The computer is fast (we did upgrade memory etc. during the initial
> purchase) and installed Virtual PC so I can run my Mastercook 6.xx.
> 4.xx will only work on System 9.xx and below from what I understand.
> I've always used System 8.xx or 9.xx at home or at work.
Mac OS X features a Classic environment, which runs 9.2. I haven't run
into a v9 program yet that doesn't run on my OS X machine.
> I'm Mac proud and am glad that Apple has brought out the Mac Mini which
> allows you to use existing hardware at home. You just need to buy the
> hard drive.
Actually, the Mac Mini is a whole computer, even though it's about the
size of a hard drive. All that you don't need to buy if you currently
have a PC is the monitor and keyboard.
--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
dabel@sonic.net
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| Mash |
Dan,
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my writing. Yes, the Mac Mini is a "whole"
computer of sorts but you do have to add a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
All of which we have thanks to our years of collecting computer stuff.
Most, if not all Macs, come with the whole enchilada so you don't have
to supply the remaining hardware. The Mac Mini is a new idea because
all it is, is a very small hard drive. I love it!
As to the Mac Mini, it can not run in the classic environment,
according to the manual (and my computer whiz daughter) unlike the
iMac. I can still run MC on the iMac, if I so desire.
Mary
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| karen |
I'm am sorry to not be able to quote now. I'm lucky to be able to post
at all.
I want to thank everyone for their helpful posts. Good, fast advice -
off-topic, too boot!
Instead of spending another night trying to fix this broken computer, I
decided to give it up and go to the other side. The Imac should arrive
on Thursday or Friday. I am looking forward to it!
Thank you all again!
karen
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| Katra |
In article <1112072952.872322.241200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"karen" <grismalkin@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm am sorry to not be able to quote now. I'm lucky to be able to post
> at all.
>
> I want to thank everyone for their helpful posts. Good, fast advice -
> off-topic, too boot!
>
> Instead of spending another night trying to fix this broken computer, I
> decided to give it up and go to the other side. The Imac should arrive
> on Thursday or Friday. I am looking forward to it!
>
> Thank you all again!
>
> karen
>
CONGRATULATIONS!!! :-)
You are gonna love it!
Kat (a 6 year Mac user with an I-mac G4)
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K.
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>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=0&userid=katra
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| Julian Vrieslander |
In article <1112060487.507402.259130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mash" <MAsh317@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps I wasn't clear in my writing. Yes, the Mac Mini is a "whole"
> computer of sorts but you do have to add a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
> All of which we have thanks to our years of collecting computer stuff.
> Most, if not all Macs, come with the whole enchilada so you don't have
> to supply the remaining hardware. The Mac Mini is a new idea because
> all it is, is a very small hard drive. I love it!
The Mac Mini is about the size of an external hard drive enclosure
(maybe a bit bigger than most). But there's a lot more in there.
There's a motherboard with a G4 processor, RAM, CD/DVD drive, and a
separate graphics processor (many bargain PCs use the main processor for
graphics, which can slow it down).
> As to the Mac Mini, it can not run in the classic environment,
> according to the manual (and my computer whiz daughter) unlike the
> iMac. I can still run MC on the iMac, if I so desire.
Are you sure that the Mini can not run Classic? That would surprise me.
Newer Macs cannot boot into OS 9, you have to boot into OS X. But you
can run old pre-OS X applications in a software emulation of OS 9. That
emulator is what is properly called the "Classic" environment. But you
may need to install the Classic emulator (it may not be installed by
default, but it should be on your system installer disks). You may also
need to purchase a copy of the OS 9 installer if you don't already have
it. After you install Classic and OS 9, the Mac will still not boot in
OS 9. But when you start up one of your old applications, the emulator
will start up, OS 9 will load and run in the emulator, and the old app
will run in OS 9.
--
Julian Vrieslander
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| Ruddell |
In <KatraMungBean-63A1CE.00525429032005@corp.supernews.com> Katra wrote:
> In article <1112072952.872322.241200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> "karen" <grismalkin@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm am sorry to not be able to quote now. I'm lucky to be able to
>> post at all. I want to thank everyone for their helpful posts. Good,
>> fast advice - off-topic, too boot! Instead of spending another night
>> trying to fix this broken computer, I decided to give it up and go to
>> the other side. The Imac should arrive on Thursday or Friday. I am
>> looking forward to it! Thank you all again! karen
>
> CONGRATULATIONS!!! :-)
>
> You are gonna love it!
>
> Kat (a 6 year Mac user with an I-mac G4)
Yes, once you get the feel of a Mac you'll never turn back. I've got OS-
X on an iBook and OS-8.6 on my iMac. Don't use the iMac much these days
as my iBook is connected via an Airport so it's mobile around the house.
But I love Macs. In fact, I've still got a Centris 610 which works
perfectly fine on the internet although via dial-up...
--
Cheers
Dennis
Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply
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| Stan Horwitz |
In article <1112020569.095548.292990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mash" <MAsh317@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have gone totally Mac after purchasing the new Mini Mac. Am in love.
> The computer is fast (we did upgrade memory etc. during the initial
> purchase) and installed Virtual PC so I can run my Mastercook 6.xx.
> 4.xx will only work on System 9.xx and below from what I understand.
> I've always used System 8.xx or 9.xx at home or at work.
>
> The big plus for the Mac is:
>
> Ease of dumping files into the trash. No more missing "links".
> Less exposure to viruses/trojans/worms. Still have antivirus software
> installed.
> Better color values.
> Smooth operating system with less system failures.
>
> I'm Mac proud and am glad that Apple has brought out the Mac Mini which
> allows you to use existing hardware at home. You just need to buy the
> hard drive.
Huh? That's not true. The Mac mini already has a hard drive in it.
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| Stan Horwitz |
In article
<julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-1363CD.16591730032005@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
Julian Vrieslander <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote:
> In article <1112060487.507402.259130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mash" <MAsh317@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I wasn't clear in my writing. Yes, the Mac Mini is a "whole"
> > computer of sorts but you do have to add a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
> > All of which we have thanks to our years of collecting computer stuff.
> > Most, if not all Macs, come with the whole enchilada so you don't have
> > to supply the remaining hardware. The Mac Mini is a new idea because
> > all it is, is a very small hard drive. I love it!
>
> The Mac Mini is about the size of an external hard drive enclosure
> (maybe a bit bigger than most). But there's a lot more in there.
> There's a motherboard with a G4 processor, RAM, CD/DVD drive, and a
> separate graphics processor (many bargain PCs use the main processor for
> graphics, which can slow it down).
>
> > As to the Mac Mini, it can not run in the classic environment,
> > according to the manual (and my computer whiz daughter) unlike the
> > iMac. I can still run MC on the iMac, if I so desire.
>
> Are you sure that the Mini can not run Classic? That would surprise me.
> Newer Macs cannot boot into OS 9, you have to boot into OS X. But you
> can run old pre-OS X applications in a software emulation of OS 9. That
> emulator is what is properly called the "Classic" environment. But you
> may need to install the Classic emulator (it may not be installed by
> default, but it should be on your system installer disks). You may also
> need to purchase a copy of the OS 9 installer if you don't already have
> it. After you install Classic and OS 9, the Mac will still not boot in
> OS 9. But when you start up one of your old applications, the emulator
> will start up, OS 9 will load and run in the emulator, and the old app
> will run in OS 9.
I find that hard to believe. Classic should work if you install OS 9 on
a Mac mini.
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| Stan Horwitz |
In article <1112072952.872322.241200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"karen" <grismalkin@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm am sorry to not be able to quote now. I'm lucky to be able to post
> at all.
>
> I want to thank everyone for their helpful posts. Good, fast advice -
> off-topic, too boot!
>
> Instead of spending another night trying to fix this broken computer, I
> decided to give it up and go to the other side. The Imac should arrive
> on Thursday or Friday. I am looking forward to it!
>
> Thank you all again!
You will absolutely love your new iMac. I have two dual processor G5
PowerMacs, a G4 laptop, an H-P laptop with Windows XP Pro, and a Gateway
PC with XP Pro/2000 and Linux. OS X makes Windows XP seem positively
primitive in many ways, and I use both every day.
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| Dave W. |
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.food.cooking:1061297
In article <stan-025EBB.01012731032005@news.giganews.com>,
Stan Horwitz <stan@temple.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-1363CD.16591730032005@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
> Julian Vrieslander <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
<snip>
> >
> > Are you sure that the Mini can not run Classic? That would surprise me.
> > Newer Macs cannot boot into OS 9, you have to boot into OS X. But you
> > can run old pre-OS X applications in a software emulation of OS 9. That
> > emulator is what is properly called the "Classic" environment. But you
> > may need to install the Classic emulator (it may not be installed by
> > default, but it should be on your system installer disks). You may also
> > need to purchase a copy of the OS 9 installer if you don't already have
> > it. After you install Classic and OS 9, the Mac will still not boot in
> > OS 9. But when you start up one of your old applications, the emulator
> > will start up, OS 9 will load and run in the emulator, and the old app
> > will run in OS 9.
>
> I find that hard to believe. Classic should work if you install OS 9 on
> a Mac mini.
But you can't boot into OS 9 ... at least I don't think you can:
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Apple Announces Mac OS X-Only Booting For 2003
APPLE EXPO, PARIS‹September 10, 2002‹Apple today announced that starting
in January 2003, all new Mac models will only boot into Mac OS X as the
start-up operating system, though they will retain the ability to run
most Mac OS 9 applications through Apple¹s bundled ³Classic² software.
There are nearly 4,000 native applications now available for Mac OS X.
³We expect that 20 percent of our entire installed base will be using
Mac OS X by the end of this year, making it the fastest operating system
transition in recent history,² said Steve Jobs, Apple¹s CEO. ³Now it¹s
time for Apple and our third-party developers to focus all of our
resources exclusively on Mac OS X, rather than dividing them between two
different operating systems.²
<snip rest of article>
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I think the OP made the best decision ... the new iMacs are very slick.
I'm thinking of getting my wife a used (original style) iMac. She's
using mine cause her two year old PC is hopeless. (And I'm certainly not
going to mess with that PC!)
Regards,
Dave W. (who's going to get a new powerbook with his tax return!)
--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth
becomes a revolutionary act. - George Orwell, (1903-1950)
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| Stan Horwitz |
In article <dwesten-77D7B4.06424731032005@news.athenanews.com>,
"Dave W." <dwesten@uark.education> wrote:
> In article <stan-025EBB.01012731032005@news.giganews.com>,
> Stan Horwitz <stan@temple.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-1363CD.16591730032005@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
> > Julian Vrieslander <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> > >
> > > Are you sure that the Mini can not run Classic? That would surprise me.
> > > Newer Macs cannot boot into OS 9, you have to boot into OS X. But you
> > > can run old pre-OS X applications in a software emulation of OS 9. That
> > > emulator is what is properly called the "Classic" environment. But you
> > > may need to install the Classic emulator (it may not be installed by
> > > default, but it should be on your system installer disks). You may also
> > > need to purchase a copy of the OS 9 installer if you don't already have
> > > it. After you install Classic and OS 9, the Mac will still not boot in
> > > OS 9. But when you start up one of your old applications, the emulator
> > > will start up, OS 9 will load and run in the emulator, and the old app
> > > will run in OS 9.
> >
> > I find that hard to believe. Classic should work if you install OS 9 on
> > a Mac mini.
>
> But you can't boot into OS 9 ... at least I don't think you can:
True, but rarely do people need to boot into OS 9 and someone who's
moving to the Mac OS from Windows is unlikely even to need any Classic
applications.
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| Mash |
Actually we do have programs that do run on OS 9 so it's a bummer about
the Mac Mini not being able to use those programs. I had to go to
Virtual PC to run a Mastercook program.
By the way, we purchased an Apple IIe, which I used for writing at
home, and we still have the computer. Works like a champ on programs
designed for 128k...
Mary
Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article <dwesten-77D7B4.06424731032005@news.athenanews.com>,
> "Dave W." <dwesten@uark.education> wrote:
>
> > In article <stan-025EBB.01012731032005@news.giganews.com>,
> > Stan Horwitz <stan@temple.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > >
<julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-1363CD.16591730032005@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
> > > Julian Vrieslander <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>snippity snip...
> >
> > But you can't boot into OS 9 ... at least I don't think you can:
>
> True, but rarely do people need to boot into OS 9 and someone who's
> moving to the Mac OS from Windows is unlikely even to need any
Classic
> applications.
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