| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
are overweight.
Truth is simple:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
You will remain in my prayers, dear Alan whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Alan S wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:07:17 -0000, "Fester"
> <Fester@nothanks.com> wrote:
>
> >Sorry for the cross posting but i thought it was worth doing!
> >
> >Just watched this .... i am actually thankful for being diabetic and
> >nutrition aware, sure i'm not as good as quentin or alan ... and nowhere
> >near as good as i could be, but compared to the numbers i saw that film
> >quote .. i feel almost healthy.
> >
> >One thing is for sure, i am NEVER going to eat fast food ever again and i'm
> >going to take a lot more notice of what i eat and what the food i eat
> >contains.
> >
> >Fresh vegetables wherever i can and no more processed foods unless there is
> >absolutely no alternative.
> >
> >I'm well aware we all die, what i am not going to do is quite literally eat
> >myself to an early grave.
> >
> >I'm quite aware that most of you will have seen this, and probably all of
> >you that read these groups are well aware of the problems created by a diet
> >that only contains elements of what Morgan ate for that month .... but for
> >me, that's given me the inspiration to remove all traces of it from my diet
> >as soon as i can.
> >
> >If you haven't seen it, then i truly reccomend that you rent it and watch it
> >and after that, tell me in all honesty whether you could ever enjoy "fast
> >food" ever again.
> >
> >Cheers.
> >
> >Fester.
> >
> Hi All
>
> The DVD finally turned up at my local Council Library.
>
> I found it fascinating.
>
> I know it's not scientific, not representative and has it's
> flaws. But it will be a long time before I eat at any large
> fast-food chain again.
>
> Two snippets to add to all of the previous comments. One was
> his GP constantly commenting on how he was killing himself
> with the high fat intake. Sure, he ate too much fat, but
> most of his calories were coming from excess high GI carbs
> and sugar. The bit where the lady shows the very large
> (gallon?) jar full of sugar to show how much pure sugar he
> ate in the month was a shock even for me. Then you add in
> all those buns, muffins, hot cakes and fries.
>
> The other was in the "bonus" footage on the DVD where they
> showed how long the preservative-filled Macca's foods lasted
> before decaying, compared to fast food from a standard
> burger shop. The Big Mac still looked good after a week
> (when the non-Maccas burger had turned black) and Macca's
> fries still looked fresh and new when everything else had
> turned (literally) to sludge.
>
> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
> --
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Stacey Bender |
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
> are overweight.
I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Stacey Bender wrote:
>
> ted rosenberg wrote:
> > all phony Alan.
> >
> > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me suspect
> > that the whole thing is a fraud.
>
> The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you might
> expect.
>
> http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
>
> There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks where
> their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
> because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
2PD-OMER Approach.
The Lord did give you free will, afterall, dear Stacey.
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Stacey Bender |
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Stacey Bender wrote:
>
>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
>>>are overweight.
>>
>>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
>
>
> Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
> palatable.
Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Stacey Bender wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
> >>>are overweight.
> >>
> >>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
> >
> >
> > Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
> > palatable.
>
> Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
> 2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.
Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
permanently, you will be fine.
Truth is simple:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
You will remain in my prayers, dear Stacey whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.
May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
> Stacey Bender wrote:
>>
>> ted rosenberg wrote:
>> > all phony Alan.
>> >
>> > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me suspect
>> > that the whole thing is a fraud.
>>
>> The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you might
>> expect.
>>
>> http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
>>
>> There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks where
>> their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
>> because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
>
> You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
> 2PD-OMER Approach.
I like the McDonald's diet: Salads, Diet Coke (R) and the occaisonal hot
apple pie (2 for $1).
Jeff
> The Lord did give you free will, afterall, dear Stacey.
>
> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Wavy G |
Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?
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| GaryG |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
> Stacey Bender wrote:
> >
> > ted rosenberg wrote:
> > > all phony Alan.
> > >
> > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
suspect
> > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
> >
> > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you might
> > expect.
> >
> > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
> >
> > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks where
> > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
> > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
>
> You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
> 2PD-OMER Approach.
How does that work in practice? Do you bring your kitchen scale with you
whenever you eat in a restaurant? What about when you go to a dinner party?
GG
>
> The Lord did give you free will, afterall, dear Stacey.
>
> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| zxcvbob |
The time has come, the Walrus said, To talk of many things:
Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax -- Of cabbages -- and kings --
And why the sea is boiling hot -- And whether "Wavy G" did sing:
>
> Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they
> say can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get
> there. I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.
>
>
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
>
>
> This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?
>
How 'bout this?
http://tinyurl.com/cwvpc
HTH, :-)
Bob
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| RK |
"Stacey Bender" <sb124@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11775atev4d3t1a@news.supernews.com...
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Stacey Bender wrote:
>>
>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
>>>>are overweight.
>>>
>>>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
>>
>>
>> Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
>> palatable.
>
> Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the 2
> pounds that matters so i should be ok.
LOL I don't recommend 2lbs of Oreo's though... I've found teeth rot to be a
downfall. Stick with the ice cream.. excellent choice.. or maybe switch to
several different favorite candybars ..just remember not over 2lbs though.
RK, t1
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| Wavy G |
Somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout...But there is no
joy in rec.food.cooking--mighty "zxcvbob" has struck out.
>The time has come, the Walrus said, To talk of many things:
>Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax -- Of cabbages -- and kings --
>And why the sea is boiling hot -- And whether "Wavy G" did sing:
>>
>> Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they
>> say can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get
>> there. I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.
>>
>>
>>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
>>
>>
>> This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?
>>
>
>
>How 'bout this?
>
>http://tinyurl.com/cwvpc
>
Great! Thanks.
>
>HTH, :-)
>Bob
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4273A562.83CD93F2@heartmdphd.com...
> Stacey Bender wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Stacey Bender wrote:
>> >
>> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks
>> >>>who
>> >>>are overweight.
>> >>
>> >>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
>> >
>> >
>> > Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
>> > palatable.
>>
>> Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
>> 2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.
>
>
> Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
> yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
> permanently, you will be fine.
Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is important to help
decrease the risk of heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, diabetes
and other diseases. And you should talk to your doctor about this.
Jeff
<garbage deleted>
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| Opinicus |
> Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> important to help
Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
This will keep you healthy.
--
Bob
Kanyak's Doghouse
http://www.kanyak.com
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| Stacey Bender |
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Stacey Bender wrote:
> Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor.
Which bible verse is that exactly?
I just checked in with my doctor. He said not to follow the 2PD-OMER
approach because it is crap. So i am going to go off the 2PD-OMER
apprach which is actually following the 2PD-OMER appraoch because my
doctor said so.
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4273A562.83CD93F2@heartmdphd.com...
> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks
> >> >>>who
> >> >>>are overweight.
> >> >>
> >> >>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
> >> > palatable.
> >>
> >> Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
> >> 2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.
> >
> >
> > Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
> > yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
> > permanently, you will be fine.
>
> Or any of several other diets.
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> > >
> > > ted rosenberg wrote:
> > > > all phony Alan.
> > > >
> > > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
> suspect
> > > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
> > >
> > > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you might
> > > expect.
> > >
> > > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
> > >
> > > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks where
> > > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
> > > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
> >
> > You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
> > 2PD-OMER Approach.
>
> How does that work in practice?
You weigh the food that you eat at McDonald's.
> Do you bring your kitchen scale with you
> whenever you eat in a restaurant?
You can if you choose. Or you can ask your server to use the scale in
the restaurant kitchen to weigh your meal for you. Or you can eat half
and box the rest to take home to weigh.
(I do the latter)
> What about when you go to a dinner party?
You can bring a scale. Or you can ask your host to weigh out a specific
number of ounces for your meal. Or you can estimate the amount of food
that would put you at 2 pounds for the day and then half that to make
sure you are eating less than 2 pounds.
(I do the latter)
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| GaryG |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> Opinicus wrote:
> >
> > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > > important to help
> >
> > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
>
> "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when there
> is overeating."
Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories that I
burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per day,
and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but begin
exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin to
lose weight through exercise alone.
But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the first
time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
GG
> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4274410C.4060AD68@heartmdphd.com...
(...)
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
It is a diet.
Jeff
<garbage deleted>
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42744112.3742F02C@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
>> > Stacey Bender wrote:
>> > >
>> > > ted rosenberg wrote:
>> > > > all phony Alan.
>> > > >
>> > > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
>> suspect
>> > > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
>> > >
>> > > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you
>> > > might
>> > > expect.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
>> > >
>> > > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks
>> > > where
>> > > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
>> > > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
>> >
>> > You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
>> > 2PD-OMER Approach.
>>
>> How does that work in practice?
>
> You weigh the food that you eat at McDonald's.
Actually, you only have to weight it once. Every Big Mac weighs about the
same. And every medium fries weighs the same. As long as you know what each
item weighs, you don't need to weigh each time.
>> Do you bring your kitchen scale with you
>> whenever you eat in a restaurant?
>
> You can if you choose. Or you can ask your server to use the scale in
> the restaurant kitchen to weigh your meal for you. Or you can eat half
> and box the rest to take home to weigh.
Or you can box the whole thing and take it out as a take out.
(...)
Jeff
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42744112.3742F02C@heartmdphd.com...
> > GaryG wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
> >> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > ted rosenberg wrote:
> >> > > > all phony Alan.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
> >> suspect
> >> > > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
> >> > >
> >> > > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you
> >> > > might
> >> > > expect.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
> >> > >
> >> > > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks
> >> > > where
> >> > > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
> >> > > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
> >> >
> >> > You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
> >> > 2PD-OMER Approach.
> >>
> >> How does that work in practice?
> >
> > You weigh the food that you eat at McDonald's.
>
> Actually, you only have to weight it once. Every Big Mac weighs about the
> same. And every medium fries weighs the same. As long as you know what each
> item weighs, you don't need to weigh each time.
You would be surprised at the variability in weight (30-40%).
> >> Do you bring your kitchen scale with you
> >> whenever you eat in a restaurant?
> >
> > You can if you choose. Or you can ask your server to use the scale in
> > the restaurant kitchen to weigh your meal for you. Or you can eat half
> > and box the rest to take home to weigh.
>
> Or you can box the whole thing and take it out as a take out.
I enjoy the fellowship of others during a meal.
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> > Opinicus wrote:
> > >
> > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > > > important to help
> > >
> > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> >
> > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when there
> > is overeating."
>
> Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories that I
> burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per day,
> and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but begin
> exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin to
> lose weight through exercise alone.
>
> But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the first
> time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
> surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
and stop the overeating.
Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.
Truth is simple.
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| GaryG |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> > > Opinicus wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > > > > important to help
> > > >
> > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> > >
> > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when
there
> > > is overeating."
> >
> > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories
that I
> > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per
day,
> > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but
begin
> > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin
to
> > lose weight through exercise alone.
> >
> > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the
first
> > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
> > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
>
> Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
> and stop the overeating.
But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people? For instance, someone
who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri Schiavo)?
And, wouldn't it be "undereating" for someone who performs heavy physical
labor, or who participates in endurance sports?
For instance, I rode my bike 602 miles in April, at an average speed of
16.24 mph, with nearly 34,000 feet of climbing. I estimate that I burned
around 27,000 calories as a result of this exercise. I'm already at the
15th percentile for weight, based on my age, gender, and height...if my diet
only permitted 2 lbs of food per day, I would probably lose a dangerous
amount of weight, or experience decreased performance on the bike, or both.
> Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.
Yes, but exercise can also turn "overeating" into "weight loss", without a
change in the quantity or composition of the food consumed.
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
> > GaryG wrote:
> > >
> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> > > > Opinicus wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > > > > > important to help
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> > > >
> > > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when
> there
> > > > is overeating."
> > >
> > > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories
> that I
> > > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per
> day,
> > > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but
> begin
> > > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin
> to
> > > lose weight through exercise alone.
> > >
> > > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the
> first
> > > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
> > > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
> >
> > Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
> > and stop the overeating.
>
> But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people?
No.
> For instance, someone
> who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri Schiavo)?
32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
feeds) would not be overeating.
> And, wouldn't it be "undereating" for someone who performs heavy physical
> labor, or who participates in endurance sports?
Not in my experience as a participant in endurance sports.
> For instance, I rode my bike 602 miles in April, at an average speed of
> 16.24 mph, with nearly 34,000 feet of climbing. I estimate that I burned
> around 27,000 calories as a result of this exercise. I'm already at the
> 15th percentile for weight, based on my age, gender, and height...if my diet
> only permitted 2 lbs of food per day, I would probably lose a dangerous
> amount of weight, or experience decreased performance on the bike, or both.
Ime, performance in endurance sports increased rather than decreases
after eating the "right" amount. Note how well the Kenyans do in
marathons despite their slight build from eating the "right" amount.
> > Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.
>
> Yes, but exercise can also turn "overeating" into "weight loss", without a
> change in the quantity or composition of the food consumed.
"Folks who rely on exercise to counteract their overeating will
ultimately become overweight."
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:4274BEF0.634840D5@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
>> > GaryG wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
>> > > > Opinicus wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
>> > > > > > important to help
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
>> > > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
>> > > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when
>> there
>> > > > is overeating."
>> > >
>> > > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories
>> that I
>> > > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per
>> day,
>> > > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but
>> begin
>> > > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll
>> > > begin
>> to
>> > > lose weight through exercise alone.
>> > >
>> > > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the
>> first
>> > > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through
>> > > exercise,
>> > > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
>> >
>> > Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
>> > and stop the overeating.
>>
>> But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people?
>
> No.
>
>> For instance, someone
>> who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri Schiavo)?
>
> 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
> feeds) would not be overeating.
But if she had 2 lbs of butter shoved into her stomach each day, which would
be consistant with your "Approach," would she have gained weight?
>> And, wouldn't it be "undereating" for someone who performs heavy physical
>> labor, or who participates in endurance sports?
>
> Not in my experience as a participant in endurance sports.
>
>> For instance, I rode my bike 602 miles in April, at an average speed of
>> 16.24 mph, with nearly 34,000 feet of climbing. I estimate that I burned
>> around 27,000 calories as a result of this exercise. I'm already at the
>> 15th percentile for weight, based on my age, gender, and height...if my
>> diet
>> only permitted 2 lbs of food per day, I would probably lose a dangerous
>> amount of weight, or experience decreased performance on the bike, or
>> both.
>
> Ime, performance in endurance sports increased rather than decreases
> after eating the "right" amount. Note how well the Kenyans do in
> marathons despite their slight build from eating the "right" amount.
Could you please provide evidence that backs up this claim? For example,
evidence that their diet is a two-pound diet as well as the number of
calories they are eating.
>> > Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.
>>
>> Yes, but exercise can also turn "overeating" into "weight loss", without
>> a
>> change in the quantity or composition of the food consumed.
>
> "Folks who rely on exercise to counteract their overeating will
> ultimately become overweight."
Whom are you quoting?
And could please provide evidence of this from the peer-reviewed literature?
Jeff
> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> **
> Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42746D6A.706855C9@heartmdphd.com...
> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> news:42744112.3742F02C@heartmdphd.com...
>> > GaryG wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
>> >> > Stacey Bender wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ted rosenberg wrote:
>> >> > > > all phony Alan.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
>> >> suspect
>> >> > > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you
>> >> > > might
>> >> > > expect.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks
>> >> > > where
>> >> > > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
>> >> > > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
>> >> >
>> >> > You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
>> >> > 2PD-OMER Approach.
>> >>
>> >> How does that work in practice?
>> >
>> > You weigh the food that you eat at McDonald's.
>>
>> Actually, you only have to weight it once. Every Big Mac weighs about the
>> same. And every medium fries weighs the same. As long as you know what
>> each
>> item weighs, you don't need to weigh each time.
>
> You would be surprised at the variability in weight (30-40%).
But, over the course of a day, it would even out.
Jeff
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42746D6A.706855C9@heartmdphd.com...
> > Jeff wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42744112.3742F02C@heartmdphd.com...
> >> > GaryG wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:427391BB.B59AFC67@heartmdphd.com...
> >> >> > Stacey Bender wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ted rosenberg wrote:
> >> >> > > > all phony Alan.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > McD's use only beef, not preservatives. The doctoring makes me
> >> >> suspect
> >> >> > > > that the whole thing is a fraud.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The buns, the sauce, and the cheese do have perservatives, as you
> >> >> > > might
> >> >> > > expect.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > http://www.mcspotlight.org/company/...ition_info.html
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > There's a phenomena called clear light, i think, in tibetan monks
> >> >> > > where
> >> >> > > their body doesn't decompose for many days after dying, presumably
> >> >> > > because of their purity. Maybe it's the same with mcdonalds.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You may certainly choose to dovetail the McDonald's Diet with the
> >> >> > 2PD-OMER Approach.
> >> >>
> >> >> How does that work in practice?
> >> >
> >> > You weigh the food that you eat at McDonald's.
> >>
> >> Actually, you only have to weight it once. Every Big Mac weighs about the
> >> same. And every medium fries weighs the same. As long as you know what
> >> each
> >> item weighs, you don't need to weigh each time.
> >
> > You would be surprised at the variability in weight (30-40%).
>
> But, over the course of a day, it would even out.
In truth, the variability increases if you are not controlling the
amount.
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:4274BEF0.634840D5@heartmdphd.com...
> > GaryG wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
> >> > GaryG wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> >> > > > Opinicus wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> >> > > > > > important to help
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> >> > > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> >> > > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when
> >> there
> >> > > > is overeating."
> >> > >
> >> > > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories
> >> that I
> >> > > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per
> >> day,
> >> > > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but
> >> begin
> >> > > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll
> >> > > begin
> >> to
> >> > > lose weight through exercise alone.
> >> > >
> >> > > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the
> >> first
> >> > > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through
> >> > > exercise,
> >> > > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
> >> >
> >> > Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
> >> > and stop the overeating.
> >>
> >> But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> For instance, someone
> >> who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri Schiavo)?
> >
> > 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
> > feeds) would not be overeating.
>
> But
Glad you agree :-)
Truth is simple:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Jeff |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42750F4E.3F506777@heartmdphd.com...
(...)
>> > 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
>> > feeds) would not be overeating.
>>
>> But
>
> Glad you agree :-)
Very funny. The word "But" is not a word that indicates agreement.
And my state clearly showed that I disagree with you.
I would not consider you an example of intellectual honesty.
I guess this is what you stoop to when you know you are out-smarted.
Jeff
<garbage deleted>
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| GaryG |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42750F4E.3F506777@heartmdphd.com...
> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:4274BEF0.634840D5@heartmdphd.com...
> > > GaryG wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
> > >> > GaryG wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message
> > >> > > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> > >> > > > Opinicus wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > >> > > > > > important to help
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > >> > > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > >> > > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss
when
> > >> there
> > >> > > > is overeating."
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of
calories
> > >> that I
> > >> > > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories
per
> > >> day,
> > >> > > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same,
but
> > >> begin
> > >> > > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day,
I'll
> > >> > > begin
> > >> to
> > >> > > lose weight through exercise alone.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be
the
> > >> first
> > >> > > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through
> > >> > > exercise,
> > >> > > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
> > >> >
> > >> > Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly
address
> > >> > and stop the overeating.
> > >>
> > >> But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > >> For instance, someone
> > >> who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri
Schiavo)?
> > >
> > > 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
> > > feeds) would not be overeating.
> >
> > But
>
> Glad you agree :-)
Once again, Chung the coward illustrates his true nature, by intentionally
changing the meaning of a post by snipping it selectively. Yet another
example of Chung "bearing false witness".
GG
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42750F4E.3F506777@heartmdphd.com...
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4274BEF0.634840D5@heartmdphd.com...
> > > > GaryG wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:42746D75.93A59807@heartmdphd.com...
> > > >> > GaryG wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message
> > > >> > > news:4274410B.27EED341@heartmdphd.com...
> > > >> > > > Opinicus wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
> > > >> > > > > > important to help
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
> > > >> > > > > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
> > > >> > > > > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss
> when
> > > >> there
> > > >> > > > is overeating."
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of
> calories
> > > >> that I
> > > >> > > burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories
> per
> > > >> day,
> > > >> > > and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same,
> but
> > > >> begin
> > > >> > > exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day,
> I'll
> > > >> > > begin
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > lose weight through exercise alone.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be
> the
> > > >> first
> > > >> > > time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through
> > > >> > > exercise,
> > > >> > > surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly
> address
> > > >> > and stop the overeating.
> > > >>
> > > >> But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > >> For instance, someone
> > > >> who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri
> Schiavo)?
> > > >
> > > > 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
> > > > feeds) would not be overeating.
> > >
> > > But
> >
> > Glad you agree :-)
>
> Once again, Chung the coward illustrates his true nature, by intentionally
> changing the meaning of a post by snipping it selectively.
The Lord has not given me the power to change the meaning of Usenet
posts by others:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:42750F4E.3F506777@heartmdphd.com...
> (...)
>
> >> > 32 ounces of Isocal (as an example of what is typically given for tube
> >> > feeds) would not be overeating.
> >>
> >> But
> >
> > Glad you agree :-)
>
> Very funny.
The truth is not funny:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.
May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.
Here's how:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)
Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.
Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
At His service,
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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| GaryG |
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42755FB4.23CD512C@heartmdphd.com...
> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:42750F4C.A3D030FA@heartmdphd.com...
> > (..>)
> >
> > >> But, over the course of a day, it would even out.
> > >
> > > In truth, the varia | | | |
