| Dimitri |
All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
be your top 5 wishes?
Mine are:
1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
hosed out.
2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
4. A temp controlled wine closet
5. A walk-in Pantry.
Yours?
Dimitri
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| serene |
Dimitri <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
A gas stove/oven.
More storage space.
A proper pantry.
A double sink.
More outlets, especially at the island.
serene
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| kilikini |
"serene" <serene@serenepages.org> wrote in message
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> Dimitri <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
> >
> > Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
would
> > be your top 5 wishes?
>
> A gas stove/oven.
> More storage space.
> A proper pantry.
> A double sink.
> More outlets, especially at the island.
>
> serene
I would also do the gas stove/oven.
ANY storage space would be lovely.
A pantry would be a dream.
A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
A dishwasher - not me!
kili
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| Dee Randall |
"serene" <serene@serenepages.org> wrote in message
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> Dimitri <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
>> would
>> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> A gas stove/oven.
> More storage space.
> A proper pantry.
> A double sink.
> More outlets, especially at the island.
>
> serene
TWO double sinks
a couple of floor outlets
a gas stove & a huge overhead vent
more work area
dee
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| serene |
kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
scraps in the compost bucket.
> A dishwasher - not me!
I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand. I wouldn't
object to having someone around who would hand-wash all the dishes,
though. :-)
serene
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| jmcquown |
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the
> floor could be hosed out.
Absolutely!
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
Not that important to me.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
For me it would be a gas stove with a griddle.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
Oh yeah!!
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
Butler's Pantry... nice!
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
Double sink and one large deep sink for deep pots. Lots of prep space.
Plenty of LIGHTING (I hate a dully lit kitchen). A window over the sink
with a solarium window for growing potted herbs. Glass front cabinets for
the items on the upper tier but not below where the pots and pans are
stored. And if there is an unused corner where a traditional cabinet won't
fit, put in a cabinet-fronted 3/4 lazy-susan. Hmmm, I don't ask for much,
do I? LOL
Jill
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| sarah bennett |
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
>
>
>
1)gas stove/convection oven
2)stainless/granite/butcherblock counters
3)tile floor with drain in center
4)walk-in pantry
5)big-ass refrigerator with freezer on the bottom
(this would be assuming i actually owned a kitchen :> )
--
saerah
"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca
aware of the manifold possibilities of the future
"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß
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| sarah bennett |
sarah bennett wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
>> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>> Mine are:
>>
>> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
>> could be hosed out.
>> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
>> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>>
>> Yours?
>>
>> Dimitri
>>
>>
>>
>
> 1)gas stove/convection oven
> 2)stainless/granite/butcherblock counters
> 3)tile floor with drain in center
> 4)walk-in pantry
> 5)big-ass refrigerator with freezer on the bottom
>
> (this would be assuming i actually owned a kitchen :> )
>
ok, maybe i'd switch out the walk-in pantry with a prep sink and a small
sink to wash my hands in.
--
saerah
"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca
aware of the manifold possibilities of the future
"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß
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| Sandi |
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
A definite must.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
Have one on the outside patio stove with a large plancha (griddle) and
4 burners.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
Have one on the small outside stove which we may or may not keep.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
Not necessary for us...so substitute a kitchen island with adequate
work and storage space.
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
A definite must.
All tile kitchen....looked at imported Spanish tile this afternoon.
Sandi
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| Curly Sue |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:04:30 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
wrote:
>kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
>
>Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
>scraps in the compost bucket.
>
>> A dishwasher - not me!
>
>I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
>like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand.
Then you don't have a very good dishwasher or something is wrong with
the setup. A good dishwasher will clean dishes better than can be
done by hand, with less water. Mine even scrubs pans quite nicely,
on the regular cycle. Part of this is due to the detergent- it's
wicked stuff!
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Alex Rast |
at Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT in
<us%we.3276$RC6.915@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>, Dimitri_C@nosprodigy.net
(Dimitri) wrote :
>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
>would be your top 5 wishes?
>
>Mine are:
>
>1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
>could be hosed out.
>2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>4. A temp controlled wine closet
>5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
>Yours?
1. A 6-burner gas stovetop with commercial BTU rating and a simmer setting
(i.e. low output) that worked by selectively turning off jets rather than
by cycling jets, combined with an electric-powered oven once again with
commercial heat ratings.
2. 1m wide countertop, with at least 2 m of length in solid marble and at
least 1.5 meters of length in 10 cm minimum thickness end-grain butcher
block.
3. A temperature and humidity controlled pantry.
4. Triple stainless sinks with spray-attachment faucet and dual taps for
hot and cold (i.e. none of those one-handle designs)
5. A large, dedicated upright freezer.
--
Alex Rast
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| Curly Sue |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net>
wrote:
>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
>be your top 5 wishes?
OK, since this is not a pie-in-the-sky re-do in a dream house, I will
have to do without a walk-in pantry since my house is too small.
Looking at my current kitchen, my major appliances are new. I have no
room for more counterspace or wine closet, but other than that, I like
the layout. What I would like/need in this reasonable remodel:
1. new tile floor
2. new countertops and windowsill (probably Silestone) and tile
backsplash
3. undermount sink (although I like my current one, I hate the trim
thing)
4. a custom-built floor-to-ceiling pantry/cupboard
5. custom-built rolling cart to match my cabinets and new countertop.
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Debbie |
Dimitri wrote:
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
>> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>> Mine are:
>>
>> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the
>> floor could be hosed out.
>> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
>> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>>
1. A Commercial gas stove with 2 full ovens, 1 with steam injection
2. An appliance counter with outlets set in for each appliance. A pull down
face to hide the appliances when not in use would be nice.
3. Walk-In pantry
4. Increased storage space
5. Dishwasher drawers
Often thought I would like a wood fired oven, but doubt I would make the
best use of it.
Debbie
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| Stan Horwitz |
In article <us%we.3276$RC6.915@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
> would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could
> be hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
A ceramic tile floor would be nice, but I don't see a need for a drain.
A drain in a kitchen floor seems like it would be a breeding ground for
insects, plus your floor would have to curve in toward the drain in
order for water to flow toward it. I prefer in my ideal kitchen to have
a level floor, but that's just me.
I am not a big wine drinker, so a fancy wine closet would be a waste for
me, but I can see how wine fanciers would benefit from it.
For me, the list is:
1) Heavy duty gas range with six burners that's easy to clean.
2) A real salamander so I can broil meats the way broiling is intended.
3) A high quality built-in grill with a vented hood sure would be nice.
4) A high efficiency refrigerator/freezer with a drink and ice
dispenser built into the door, frost free, and quiet.
5) Acres of storage and counter space.
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Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
I love your floor drain idea. I would go for the large strong vent
hood, over a commercial double oven, with six gas burners, two of which
could hold a grill -- either flat or slotted.
A double sink at one place, and a bar / vegetable sink over there.
A center island work place that has multiple electric outlets all
around on the sides (my brother actually custom made this).
Many shelving units around the room with those steel (fence-type?) wire
racks.
I'm intrigued by the set-up on Food Network for Mario, (of course it's
a TV studio), where his guests are sitting at a counter across from
him, so he can cook while chatting with his guests, and simply keep
handing food over to them as each item is ready. I'm pretty much over
the picture of sitting in a formal dining room, linens and silver,
etc., when everything is ready and served. I want my guests to be with
me when I'm having fun in the kitchen, but wtill with that counter as a
barrier so they don't get in my way ;-Q
Oh yes, again another Food Network backstage peek -- they had rows of
fridge's with glass doors so you can see what's there without opening
the doors. ELsewhere I have seen home refrigerators with the freezer
portion below instead of above, and as a pull-out drawer so the cold
air isn't lost. Amana makes on where the freezer portion is about
forty percent of the total unit. Of course, this would be separate
from the wine cooler and the glass-door cooler. I think the latter two
would have to be in the adjoining pantry, another full room (butler's
pantry) with cabinets and counters.
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| modom |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net>
wrote:
>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
>be your top 5 wishes?
>
>Mine are:
>
>1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
>hosed out.
Good idea. I'd settle for just getting the gastly carpet out of mine,
but I'm afraid of what's underneath it.
>2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
I'm not interested in the above, but I can see how it would be cool.
>3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
I'd settle for a hood that doesn't sound like a disabled B-17 trying
desperatelt to land.
>4. A temp controlled wine closet
Not my ideal, but again...
>5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
I have one, but I may need a consultant on how best to use it.
>Yours?
>
I'd like to replace the formica top on the island in my kitchen with a
butcher block. I may yet do that. We'll see.
modom
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| modom |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:46:07 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
wrote:
>Dimitri <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
>> be your top 5 wishes?
>
>A gas stove/oven.
>More storage space.
>A proper pantry.
>A double sink.
Yeah, I'd seriously upgrade my sink and my kitchen faucet. In fact, I
think I will!
>More outlets, especially at the island.
>
>serene
modom
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| lookie.here@gmail.com |
Wood cook stove
Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
Wide plank wood work table
Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in the
summer.
chula
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Thu 30 Jun 2005 08:39:16p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> Wood cook stove
> Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
> Wide plank wood work table
> Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
> Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in the
> summer.
Sounds like a 1905 kitchen!
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| Janet Bostwick |
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:us%we.3276$RC6.915@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
> would be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
> could be hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
5,3,1
I liked the idea of a tile floor with a drain when I had an infant--it isn't
so important now.
Whenever I daydream about my dream home, I spend most of my time designing
my walk-in pantry, one like grandpa had--that thing had windows and shelves
and bins and cupboards and must have been at least 20 feet long. sigh.
The other thing I would do to the kitchen is redesign the traditional
cupboard space. I'd want banks of floor to ceiling cupboards (pull-outs on
the bottom maybe 3-4) feet. Having the work surface/counter in front of the
cupboards is a real pain for storage and access. The top cupboards become
useless. I'd want enclosed book shelves for the cookbooks. And a specially
designed niche for the computer, telephone etc. I have my computer in the
kitchen now and I can't imagine being without it.
Janet
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| serene |
Curly Sue <address.in.sig@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:04:30 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
> wrote:
>
> >kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
> >
> >Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
> >scraps in the compost bucket.
> >
> >> A dishwasher - not me!
> >
> >I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
> >like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand.
>
> Then you don't have a very good dishwasher or something is wrong with
> the setup. A good dishwasher will clean dishes better than can be
> done by hand, with less water.
My partner has an expensive, new dishwasher that was put in as part of a
complete kitchen remodel. Still leaves streaks of detergent and the
random bit of food. No, thanks. I'd rather do it myself.
serene
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| Debra Fritz |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net>
wrote:
>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
>be your top 5 wishes?
>
>Mine are:
>
>1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
>hosed out.
>2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>4. A temp controlled wine closet
>5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
>Yours?
I actually got to do mine last year. I couldn't have *everything*, but
I got all the stuff that was on the top of my list.
Custom cabinets..and no lower cabinets..evrything below the counter is
all drawers..except for one cabinet that has a pull out trash
container.
A double door 5 shelf ( all pull-outs) appliance cupboard.
One double upper cabinet with vertical separators so I can slide in
cutting boards, cookie sheets, roasting pans,etc.
Granite counter tops
5 burner gas cook top with high btu burners and simmer burners
Double ovens - electric/convection
An appliance garage that holds stuff I use frequently, but want out of
sight
A lazy susan lower corner cabinet with 2 large shelves that I just
spin around till I find what I want.
Stainless steel appliances
An island!!! with 6 drawers
A ton of usable storage space
Ceramic tile floors
Ceramic tile back splash with a tile mural behind the cook top
Recessed lighting
A 14" round skylight
Debra
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Thu 30 Jun 2005 10:12:58p, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
>>would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>>Mine are:
>>
>>1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
>>could be hosed out.
>>2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>>3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>>4. A temp controlled wine closet
>>5. A walk-in Pantry.
>>
>>Yours?
>
> I actually got to do mine last year. I couldn't have *everything*, but
> I got all the stuff that was on the top of my list.
>
> Custom cabinets..and no lower cabinets..evrything below the counter is
> all drawers..except for one cabinet that has a pull out trash
> container.
>
> A double door 5 shelf ( all pull-outs) appliance cupboard.
>
> One double upper cabinet with vertical separators so I can slide in
> cutting boards, cookie sheets, roasting pans,etc.
>
> Granite counter tops
>
> 5 burner gas cook top with high btu burners and simmer burners
>
> Double ovens - electric/convection
>
> An appliance garage that holds stuff I use frequently, but want out of
> sight
>
> A lazy susan lower corner cabinet with 2 large shelves that I just
> spin around till I find what I want.
>
> Stainless steel appliances
>
> An island!!! with 6 drawers
>
> A ton of usable storage space
>
> Ceramic tile floors
>
> Ceramic tile back splash with a tile mural behind the cook top
>
> Recessed lighting
>
> A 14" round skylight
>
> Debra
>
>
Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| jmcquown |
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 30 Jun 2005 08:39:16p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Wood cook stove
>> Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
>> Wide plank wood work table
>> Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
>> Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in
>> the summer.
>
> Sounds like a 1905 kitchen!
They knew how to cook back then, Wayne :)
Jill
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| -L. |
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
1. Granite counter tops. Currently they are tile with granite inlay.
I odn't like cleaning the grout.
2. Larger fridge
3. Rearrange space so that stove isn't on a peninsula
That's about it. I like my kitchen - big and lots of natural light.
You can see pics of it here:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/usenetlyn/my_photos
-L.
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| jmcquown |
-L. wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
>> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>
> 1. Granite counter tops. Currently they are tile with granite inlay.
> I odn't like cleaning the grout.
>
> 2. Larger fridge
>
> 3. Rearrange space so that stove isn't on a peninsula
>
> That's about it. I like my kitchen - big and lots of natural light.
> You can see pics of it here:
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/usenetlyn/my_photos
>
> -L.
Nice kitchen! And I love the archways.
Jill
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jmcquown wrote:
>
> Nice kitchen! And I love the archways.
>
> Jill
Oh, thanks! That's our little breakfast nook off the kitchen. The
house was redone in 2000 and he added a lot of archways - 8 altogether,
I think.
-L.
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"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<us%we.3276$RC6.915@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
Just in the process of dessigning my dream kitchen!
My top 5 wishes (that I am going to realize) are:
1. A huge walk-in pantry.
2. A build-in fireplace with grill and rotating split (big enough for
a lamb)
3. A huge amount of workspace including a huge double sink and lots of
power outlets.
4. A proffesional 6-burner gasstove with two ovens + an extra
high-mounted oven.
5. Completely tiled (floor and walls) the floor with natural slate (a
non-skid surface).
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| Sandi |
serene wrote:
> Curly Sue <address.in.sig@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:04:30 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
> > >
> > >Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
> > >scraps in the compost bucket.
> > >
> > >> A dishwasher - not me!
> > >
> > >I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
> > >like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand.
> >
> > Then you don't have a very good dishwasher or something is wrong with
> > the setup. A good dishwasher will clean dishes better than can be
> > done by hand, with less water.
>
> My partner has an expensive, new dishwasher that was put in as part of a
> complete kitchen remodel. Still leaves streaks of detergent and the
> random bit of food. No, thanks. I'd rather do it myself.
>
Just because it is expensive and new doesn't mean it is functioning
correctly.
Sandi
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| Dave W. |
In article <1gyzbbv.1tsk2xc1ibjs3fN%serene@serenepages.org>,
serene@serenepages.org (serene) wrote:
> kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
>
> Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
> scraps in the compost bucket.
>
My wife has a disposal and I thought I'd like one also. But since we put
a compost bin in he back yard the disposal is used seldom, if at all.
> > A dishwasher - not me!
>
> I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
> like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand. I wouldn't
> object to having someone around who would hand-wash all the dishes,
> though. :-)
>
> serene
My wife has a dishwasher and I think her dishes come out as clean as
mine. But she seems to spend about as much time, maybe even more,
"prepping" and loading the dishwasher as I spend hand washing my dishes.
I tend to wash my pots and pans as I finish using them and move dirty
dishes straight from the table into the hot soapy water waiting in the
sink. Fifteen minutes, or certainly less than a half hour, after a meal
my pots and pans and dishes are clean and put away.
If I invite people over, it takes longer. But my guests always help with
the chores. Else I won't invite them again. ;^)
Of course, being a Luddite, I'm biased. I enjoy washing dishes. Let me
qualify that .... I enjoy washing MY dishes, so don't get any ideas! ;^)
Got to go now ... I've got dishes to wash.
Regards,
Dave W.
--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.
Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
R. Henry
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| ladysbytes@yahoo.com |
I like the way you think Dimitri,
I would expand upon that drain in the floor
idea and make the whole kitchen stainless steel,
Then you could stand back and take your high
pressure hose to the whole thing. Now THAT
is a kitchen I could love.
Sara
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
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| jmcquown |
ladysbytes@yahoo.com wrote:
> I like the way you think Dimitri,
> I would expand upon that drain in the floor
> idea and make the whole kitchen stainless steel,
> Then you could stand back and take your high
> pressure hose to the whole thing. Now THAT
> is a kitchen I could love.
>
> Sara
>
Slippery to walk on though, don't you think? Rubber soles required.
Jill
>
> Dimitri wrote:
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
>> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>> Mine are:
>>
>> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the
>> floor could be hosed out.
>> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
>> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>>
>> Yours?
>>
>> Dimitri
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| Curly Sue |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:38:53 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
wrote:
>Curly Sue <address.in.sig@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:04:30 -0700, serene@serenepages.org (serene)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
>> >
>> >Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
>> >scraps in the compost bucket.
>> >
>> >> A dishwasher - not me!
>> >
>> >I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
>> >like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand.
>>
>> Then you don't have a very good dishwasher or something is wrong with
>> the setup. A good dishwasher will clean dishes better than can be
>> done by hand, with less water.
>
>My partner has an expensive, new dishwasher that was put in as part of a
>complete kitchen remodel. Still leaves streaks of detergent and the
>random bit of food. No, thanks. I'd rather do it myself.
>
>serene
Something is wrong. What if you bought an air conditioner and it
didn't cool the room properly? Would you say that ACs don't work?
Wouldn't you investigate the situation or complain to the store?
Maybe the outlet of the dishwasher is plugged or there isn't enough
pressure.
Paying for an expensive machine and then not using it only because
it's not working properly is a waste. But if you enjoy doing dishes
by hand, and a lot of people do, then that's the real story.
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Debra Fritz |
On 1 Jul 2005 10:08:59 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
<waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>
>Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
Yes..my son took some but forgot to take the double ovens. I will get
him to add that soon..
Is your email address correct.? If it is, I'll email you the invite to
view the picts he put up on yahoo photos. .. and let you know when he
adds the oven pict.
If your email address is munged, email it to me and I'll send the
invite.
Debra
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| Cindy Fuller |
In article <us%we.3276$RC6.915@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
> would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could
> be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
1. A gas line on our street so we could have
2. A gas cooktop with an almost commercial wok cooker, and
3. A built in grill with vented hood
The topography of our yard makes having LP gas tanks for a range
impractical (terraced yard; kitchen end of house is practically up
against a steep cliff, making access difficult).
4. A separate counter area for my baking operation
5. A separate counter with plumbing for the SO's coffee/espresso
operation
All five of these wishes would require turning the family room into an
extension of the kitchen: Ripping up the carpet and putting in more
appropriate flooring; extending the existing countertops and adding
cabinets below (without blocking the picture window); and rearranging
the heating duct work, since the remaining walls have bookcases and a
fireplace against/in them. We might need to get our landlord's
permission for all this ;-)
Cindy
--
C.J. Fuller
Delete the obvious to email me
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| biig |
"Dave W." wrote:
>
> In article <1gyzbbv.1tsk2xc1ibjs3fN%serene@serenepages.org>,
> serene@serenepages.org (serene) wrote:
>
> > kilikini <kilikini@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
> >
> > Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
> > scraps in the compost bucket.
> >
> My wife has a disposal and I thought I'd like one also. But since we put
> a compost bin in he back yard the disposal is used seldom, if at all.
>
> > > A dishwasher - not me!
> >
> > I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
> > like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand. I wouldn't
> > object to having someone around who would hand-wash all the dishes,
> > though. :-)
> >
> > serene
>
> My wife has a dishwasher and I think her dishes come out as clean as
> mine. But she seems to spend about as much time, maybe even more,
> "prepping" and loading the dishwasher as I spend hand washing my dishes.
> I tend to wash my pots and pans as I finish using them and move dirty
> dishes straight from the table into the hot soapy water waiting in the
> sink. Fifteen minutes, or certainly less than a half hour, after a meal
> my pots and pans and dishes are clean and put away.
>
> If I invite people over, it takes longer. But my guests always help with
> the chores. Else I won't invite them again. ;^)
>
> Of course, being a Luddite, I'm biased. I enjoy washing dishes. Let me
> qualify that .... I enjoy washing MY dishes, so don't get any ideas! ;^)
>
> Got to go now ... I've got dishes to wash.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
>
> --
> Living in the Ozarks
> For email, edu will do.
>
> Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
> R. Henry
May I ask what is a Luddite? I've never heard that term before and
I'm just curious......Sharon
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| Jean B. |
Dimitri wrote:
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
>
>
>
1. Huge walk-in pantry, which also could house infrequently used
appliances.
2. Gas range with electric oven--if no gas, then high-quality induction
stove, which I gather exist in other countries.
3. Vast expanses of DEEP counter space.
4. Enough space for ALL of my cookbooks--and for additions to my
collection of same.
5. Big fireplace with Dutch oven, probably almost exclusively for
aesthetic purposes. (Of course, that would entail another house, since
that just wouldn't be right in a contemporary house! A more practical
final choice might be a logical place to put the freezer, although I
suppose those trips down to the basement constitute minor exercise. <g>)
In the meantime, I am intrigued with the thought of getting stand-alone
pieces of furniture instead of built-in cabinets....
As for the center drain, I like the idea of having those in bathrooms.
Have thought that since I lived in Japan.
--
Jean B.
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| Wayne Boatwright |
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.food.cooking:1088529
On Fri 01 Jul 2005 08:31:28a, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 1 Jul 2005 10:08:59 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
>
> Yes..my son took some but forgot to take the double ovens. I will get
> him to add that soon..
>
> Is your email address correct.? If it is, I'll email you the invite to
> view the picts he put up on yahoo photos. .. and let you know when he
> adds the oven pict.
>
> If your email address is munged, email it to me and I'll send the
> invite.
>
>
> Debra
I'm looking forward to your pictures!
Yes, it's a munged address. This one will work...
wayneboatwright at msn dot com
Thanks!
--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
____________________________________________
Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974
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| Dave W. |
In article <42C5727D.7CF738B1@mnsi.net>, biig <biig@mnsi.net> wrote:
> "Dave W." wrote:
> >
> > In article <1gyzbbv.1tsk2xc1ibjs3fN%serene@serenepages.org>,
<snip>
> > Of course, being a Luddite, I'm biased. I enjoy washing dishes. Let me
> > qualify that .... I enjoy washing MY dishes, so don't get any ideas! ;^)
> >
> > Got to go now ... I've got dishes to wash.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave W.
> >
<snip>
> May I ask what is a Luddite? I've never heard that term before and
> I'm just curious......Sharon
Oh, its somebody who has a technological phobia, in a way. They are
suspicious and distrustful of the new, non-traditional, ways of using
technology. The older I get, the more I lean toward Ludditism, or so it
seems to me. Here's my first hit on Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
Very 19th century I am. Sort of .... didn't used to be this way.
Regards,
Dave W.
--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.
Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
R. Henry
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| Bob Myers |
"Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:3ilbhbFm1qulU1@individual.net...
> 4. Enough space for ALL of my cookbooks--and for additions to my
> collection of same.
That's the one every kitchen designer always seems to forget;
I wound up adding a small bookshelf to the kitchen when our
current house was built, and now wish it was at least twice the
size it is.
Some other ideas:
1. I'm surprised, given this group, that no one has yet mentioned
a good place for a PC with a DSL or similar high-speed connection
(and I mean something that was really INTENDED to be occupied
by a PC, not just finding someplace to stuff one into the kitchen).
Have the machine itself tucked away in a well-cooled niche in
the pantry, but have a fold-down LCD screen under a cabinet
somewhere and a "spillproofed" keyboard tucked away in its
own drawer. Ideal for grabbing those recipes or ordering things
off the web! This set up could also bring music and video
into the kitchen as well...
2. Much better lighting. I've added (as an afterthought)
under-cabinet lighting to the last two kitchens - if there's a next
one in my future, this gets designed in from the start, along with
more (and more conveniently placed) outlets.
3. A big, built-in (removable for cleaning, naturally) cutting
board located next to one of the sinks, with knife storage
conveniently located with respect to this area.
4. Better storage for those not-all-THAT-often-used-but-still-
essential appliances that you just don't want to keep on the
counters (and those "garage" sorts of things still take up what
could otherwise be usable counter space). I'm just not sure
of the best way to address this problem. (I have this fantasy
of some 007-like gadgetry, in which food processors and such
pop up out of the countertops or descend from the ceiling, all
at a touch of my combination wristwatch/remote control/death
ray/bread knife...:-))
Bob M.
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| Dean G. |
1. First I want my Chambers stove back ! Barring that, I'll take a good
gas stove with either six burners, or four burners plus a
griddle/broiler combo the Chambers had. An insulated well for soups and
stews would be nice.
2. Two ovens, one with a rotisserie and one with a convection fan. Both
need to be large enough to fit the largest of Turkeys (myself and other
human Turkeys excluded)
3. A second twin-tub prep sink near the stove, with a water faucet that
reaches the stove
4. Huge amounts of cabinet/pantry and prep space, the prep areas
leaning ever so slightly towards the sink, so when things spill, they
tend to flow towards the sink instead of the floor.
5 Direct access to both the outside grill and the dinning room. If I
get my wish, this would include both walkways and a window to each with
a large shelf area for each "window".
6. (I'm cheating, so yes, 6) A fridge big enough to hold a marinating
pork loin, several large prepared dishes, and all the other stuff I
keep in there. However, your reasonable funds phrase probably puts that
well in the realm of fantasy. Maybe I can get one of the stoves that
also have cooling functions. That way I could leave the pork loin in
the oven. Invariably, I'd try to put a salad or such in with it, and
when the timer said to cook the pork, it would also toast my salad. But
I'll suffer, if I have to <g>.
Dean G.
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| Curly Sue |
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:20:05 GMT, "Bob Myers"
<nospamplease@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>"Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> wrote in message
>news:3ilbhbFm1qulU1@individual.net...
>> 4. Enough space for ALL of my cookbooks--and for additions to my
>> collection of same.
>
>That's the one every kitchen designer always seems to forget;
>I wound up adding a small bookshelf to the kitchen when our
>current house was built, and now wish it was at least twice the
>size it is.
>
>Some other ideas:
>
>1. I'm surprised, given this group, that no one has yet mentioned
>a good place for a PC with a DSL or similar high-speed connection
>(and I mean something that was really INTENDED to be occupied
>by a PC, not just finding someplace to stuff one into the kitchen).
>Have the machine itself tucked away in a well-cooled niche in
>the pantry, but have a fold-down LCD screen under a cabinet
>somewhere and a "spillproofed" keyboard tucked away in its
>own drawer. Ideal for grabbing those recipes or ordering things
>off the web! This set up could also bring music and video
>into the kitchen as well...
You would think so, but I've seen on TV different products to do those
things and there has to be a reason they haven't taken off. I have
WiFi and a Thinkpad and there aren't that many times I want to type
while my hands are covered with flour etc. Recipes? I'm not a
luddite but I like my cookbooks. I don't even want a TV in the
kitchen, it interferes with my reverie or other thoughts while I cook
or clean up. I guess I'm not so good at multitasking!
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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| Debra Fritz |
On 1 Jul 2005 19:22:48 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
<waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>On Fri 01 Jul 2005 08:31:28a, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 1 Jul 2005 10:08:59 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
>> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
>>
>> Yes..my son took some but forgot to take the double ovens. I will get
>> him to add that soon..
My son came home as I was trying to send you the invite and informed
me he **had** taken a photo of the ovens, and that **I** failed to
upload it. He uploaded it for me so now it's there.. and you'l be
able to see that entire side of the new kitchen.
If anyone else would like to see the pictures, let me know.
Debra
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| Dee Randall |
"Dave W." <dwesten@uark.education> wrote in message
news:dwesten-7D8EF5.13003901072005@news.athenanews.com...
> In article <42C5727D.7CF738B1@mnsi.net>, biig <biig@mnsi.net> wrote:
>
>> "Dave W." wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <1gyzbbv.1tsk2xc1ibjs3fN%serene@serenepages.org>,
>
> <snip>
>
>> > Of course, being a Luddite, I'm biased. I enjoy washing dishes. Let me
>> > qualify that .... I enjoy washing MY dishes, so don't get any ideas!
>> > ;^)
>> >
>> > Got to go now ... I've got dishes to wash.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dave W.
>> >
> <snip>
>
>> May I ask what is a Luddite? I've never heard that term before and
>> I'm just curious......Sharon
>
> Oh, its somebody who has a technological phobia, in a way. They are
> suspicious and distrustful of the new, non-traditional, ways of using
> technology. The older I get, the more I lean toward Ludditism, or so it
> seems to me. Here's my first hit on Google:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
>
> Very 19th century I am. Sort of .... didn't used to be this way.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
>
Dave, with me, getting along in years and helping to take care of my f-i-l
in an assisted living, a lot of people think I qualify to live there, too;
and indeed I do. A woman in her early 50's seeing me use a cell phone asked
me how I liked it, etc. I realized in a minute or so that she was old-people
pampering me. A day or so later a cousin in his 50's re my husband who uses
a cell phone and my husband not getting his message, remarked about my
husband trying to be hi-tech, but not really able to retrieve the messages.
I told him that we were both like hi-tech and he sort of smirked/sneared,
but in a nice way, being sort of a Luddite person.
I only regret that I did not have in my earlier years, DVD recorders,
computers, digital camera, mP3, cell phones with multiple uses, HDTV, music
on demand, etc etc. I love it, but I also like minimalism,
simple-mindedness, etc. -- go figure how the mind works.
Dee
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| biig |
"Dave W." wrote:
>
> In article <42C5727D.7CF738B1@mnsi.net>, biig <biig@mnsi.net> wrote:
>
> > "Dave W." wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <1gyzbbv.1tsk2xc1ibjs3fN%serene@serenepages.org>,
>
> <snip>
>
> > > Of course, being a Luddite, I'm biased. I enjoy washing dishes. Let me
> > > qualify that .... I enjoy washing MY dishes, so don't get any ideas! ;^)
> > >
> > > Got to go now ... I've got dishes to wash.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave W.
> > >
> <snip>
>
> > May I ask what is a Luddite? I've never heard that term before and
> > I'm just curious......Sharon
>
> Oh, its somebody who has a technological phobia, in a way. They are
> suspicious and distrustful of the new, non-traditional, ways of using
> technology. The older I get, the more I lean toward Ludditism, or so it
> seems to me. Here's my first hit on Google:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
>
> Very 19th century I am. Sort of .... didn't used to be this way.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
>
> --
> Living in the Ozarks
> For email, edu will do.
>
> Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
> R. Henry
Thanks for the reply....I'm all for traditional ways...sometimes
things happening today really seem a slippery slope...like cloning
frinstance...Hope I didn't tread on anyones toes here.... And I still
don't want a mechanical dishwasher, and don't own a food processor...a
chopper for bread crumbs is about as adventurous as I get. I like to
chop things on a board with my knife. I do like kitchen gadgets thougn
and own a foreman type grill and a GTexpress ....lol..... And I
couldn't survive the summer without my a/c
Sharon
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| lookie.here@gmail.com |
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 30 Jun 2005 08:39:16p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Wood cook stove
> > Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
> > Wide plank wood work table
> > Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
> > Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in the
> > summer.
>
> Sounds like a 1905 kitchen!
I was thinking more 1899, but close enough!
chula
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Fri 01 Jul 2005 02:31:31p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 30 Jun 2005 08:39:16p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > Wood cook stove
>> > Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
>> > Wide plank wood work table
>> > Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
>> > Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in
>> > the summer.
>>
>> Sounds like a 1905 kitchen!
>
> I was thinking more 1899, but close enough!
>
> chula
>
>
I guess it depends on where. In rural America, even beyond 1905 you would
probably find the same items. "Modern" conveniences would have only made
their way to the big cities.
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Fri 01 Jul 2005 12:53:46p, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 1 Jul 2005 19:22:48 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>
>>On Fri 01 Jul 2005 08:31:28a, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2005 10:08:59 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
>>> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
>>>
>>> Yes..my son took some but forgot to take the double ovens. I will get
>>> him to add that soon..
>
> My son came home as I was trying to send you the invite and informed
> me he **had** taken a photo of the ovens, and that **I** failed to
> upload it. He uploaded it for me so now it's there.. and you'l be
> able to see that entire side of the new kitchen.
>
> If anyone else would like to see the pictures, let me know.
>
> Debra
>
Thanks, Debra. I'll be looking as soon as I get home from work.
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| Arri London |
Dimitri wrote:
>
> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
> be your top 5 wishes?
>
> Mine are:
>
> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
> hosed out.
> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>
> Yours?
>
> Dimitri
More counter and cabinet space (with a better layout)
Decent cooker and hood
'Cool room' for fermenting kimchi, sauerkraut, sourdoughs and storing
decent cheese etc
More electrical outlets (and a better circuit)
A walk-in fridge and similar freezer (LOL now that's real fantasy)
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Fri 01 Jul 2005 03:50:19p, Arri London wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>>
>> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
>> what would be your top 5 wishes?
>>
>> Mine are:
>>
>> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
>> could be hosed out.
>> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
>> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
>> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
>> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
>>
>> Yours?
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> More counter and cabinet space (with a better layout)
> Decent cooker and hood
> 'Cool room' for fermenting kimchi, sauerkraut, sourdoughs and storing
> decent cheese etc
> More electrical outlets (and a better circuit)
> A walk-in fridge and similar freezer (LOL now that's real fantasy)
>
So what temperature does one keep a "cool room" for those purposes? I like
the idea. One could probably accomplish this fairly easily with a through
the wall air conditioner in a well-insulated room.
As a mechanical/electrical engineer, my dad spent much of his career
designing custom refrigeration and cooling systems that ranged in size from
meat lockers to refrigerated sound stages in Hollywood. He was also
involved in cooling systems for early computer rooms and systems. In our
oldest home we had an 8' x 10' walk-in freezer in the basement and a 4' x
6' walk-in refrigerator in our kitchen. Both were a great place to visit
in the summer, even though we had early generation central air. This was
in the early to mid-fifties.
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| Phyllis Stone |
"serene" <serene@serenepages.org> wrote in message
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> My partner has an expensive, new dishwasher that was put in as part of a
> complete kitchen remodel. Still leaves streaks of detergent and the
> random bit of food. No, thanks. I'd rather do it myself.
>
> serene
Also it sounds like the water heater isn't hot enough. There should never
be steaks of detergent. I have had a lot of different grades of dishwashers
and that has never happened.
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| Ophelia |
"Wayne Boatwright" <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote in message
news:Xns96869E0AC6DE0waynesgang@217.22.228.19...
> On Fri 01 Jul 2005 12:53:46p, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 1 Jul 2005 19:22:48 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
>> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri 01 Jul 2005 08:31:28a, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2005 10:08:59 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> <waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sounds wonderful! Pictures?
>>>>
>>>> Yes..my son took some but forgot to take the double ovens. I will
>>>> get
>>>> him to add that soon..
>>
>> My son came home as I was trying to send you the invite and informed
>> me he **had** taken a photo of the ovens, and that **I** failed to
>> upload it. He uploaded it for me so now it's there.. and you'l be
>> able to see that entire side of the new kitchen.
>>
>> If anyone else would like to see the pictures, let me know.
>>
>> Debra
Yes please Debra
Ophelia
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Thu 30 Jun 2005 10:12:58p, Debra Fritz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> I actually got to do mine last year. I couldn't have *everything*, but
> I got all the stuff that was on the top of my list.
>
> Custom cabinets..and no lower cabinets..evrything below the counter is
> all drawers..except for one cabinet that has a pull out trash
> container.
>
> A double door 5 shelf ( all pull-outs) appliance cupboard.
>
> One double upper cabinet with vertical separators so I can slide in
> cutting boards, cookie sheets, roasting pans,etc.
>
> Granite counter tops
>
> 5 burner gas cook top with high btu burners and simmer burners
>
> Double ovens - electric/convection
>
> An appliance garage that holds stuff I use frequently, but want out of
> sight
>
> A lazy susan lower corner cabinet with 2 large shelves that I just
> spin around till I find what I want.
>
> Stainless steel appliances
>
> An island!!! with 6 drawers
>
> A ton of usable storage space
>
> Ceramic tile floors
>
> Ceramic tile back splash with a tile mural behind the cook top
>
> Recessed lighting
>
> A 14" round skylight
>
> Debra
>
Debra, I've had a chance to see your pictures and your kitchen is
absolutely beautiful. No wonder you're proud of it! You obviously spent a
lot of time and thought in planning the layout and work areas, and it must
be a dream to cook in. I love the colors of the cabinet wood and granite
together, and they're perfectly complimented by the stainless steel. The
pull out pantries are a great idea, as is the appliance garage! It
certainly doesn't look like you left anything out!
Happy cooking...
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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| Siobhan Perricone |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
>All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
>
>Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
>be your top 5 wishes?
>
I got the chance to do this when we built our house. We decided to spend
the money on the kitchen up front 'cos it's cheaper than redoing it later.
1. High end gas cooktop with downdraft vent (we have cathedral ceilings)
2. Top of the line double wall oven with convection in at least one oven
3. High quality, energy efficient dishwasher
4. Solid surface counter tops with routed out drainboard by the sink
5. Sink mounted *under* the countertop do discourage leaks when doing
dishes
6. Lots and lots of cupboards
7. Huge, and I mean huge, pantry
:)
--
Siobhan Perricone
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair; then I
thought, 'Wouldn't it be much worse if life *were* fair, and all the
terrible things that happened to us come because we actually deserved
them?' So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe."
- Marcus, Babylon 5, "A Late Delivery from Avalon"
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| Debra Fritz |
On 2 Jul 2005 12:38:38 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
<waynesgang@waynes.gang> wrote:
>Debra, I've had a chance to see your pictures and your kitchen is
>absolutely beautiful. No wonder you're proud of it! You obviously spent a
>lot of time and thought in planning the layout and work areas, and it must
>be a dream to cook in. I love the colors of the cabinet wood and granite
>together, and they're perfectly complimented by the stainless steel. The
>pull out pantries are a great idea, as is the appliance garage! It
>certainly doesn't look like you left anything out!
>
>Happy cooking...
Thank you. I spent 9 months figuring out what I wanted, and what space
would allow.
My biggest surprise was leaning I could have custom cabinets for the
same price as the Home Depot stuff. The cabinet maker used every inch
of space to give me what I wanted and there are no "spacers" in the
design.
Debra
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| Debra Fritz |
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:22:34 GMT, "Ophelia" <ophelia@nospam.co.uk>
wrote:
>Yes please Debra
>
>Ophelia
>
OK..I figured out how to make the photo's available without having to
send a personal invite to your email address.
Go to:
http://photos.yahoo.com/dfritz.rm.
and click on the kitchen photos...That will get you into the 8
photo's. I can't post a lot of descriptive info on the individual
photo's, so you may not be able to identify everything in the photo.
Things to look for.
All photo's- notice the lack of bottom cupboards. I had all drawers
done so I no longer have to crawl around looking for things.
The only regular cupboard's are under the sink...where I have a large
roll-out shelf and one just to the left of the fridge..next to the
drawers. That has a pull-out trash container which is hidden from view
when not being used.
Oven photo
On the right of the ovens are two pull out pantry units. Each has 4
deep shelves for storing things. Directly above those is a double door
cabinet that has vertical separations so you can slide in cookie
sheets, cutting boards, etc.
On the left is a double door cabinet that has 4 roll out shelves for
appliance storage.
Dishwasher photo-
to the far left of the dishwasher there is a lower cabinet that has 2
slender doors. Those doors open and there is a 2 shelf lazy susan spin
around where I store bowls, etc. No more crawling around in cabinets
to find things..just spin the shelf around and stop it when you see
what you want.
Island photo or pot rack photo
Just behind the island there is a cupboard door that looks like it's
sitting on the counter top. That is an appliance garage, used to store
things I use every day, but want out of sight. Things like a coffee
grinder,mini chopper, coffee filters, coffee beans, etc.
Debra
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| Ophelia |
"Debra Fritz" <dfritz@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:22:34 GMT, "Ophelia" <ophelia@nospam.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes please Debra
>>
>>Ophelia
>>
>
> OK..I figured out how to make the photo's available without having to
> send a personal invite to your email address.
>
> Go to:
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/dfritz.rm.
Thank you Debra:) You are very lucky, it is beautiful:))
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| Arri London |
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Fri 01 Jul 2005 03:50:19p, Arri London wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> >
> > Dimitri wrote:
> >>
> >> All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.
> >>
> >> Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
> >> what would be your top 5 wishes?
> >>
> >> Mine are:
> >>
> >> 1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
> >> could be hosed out.
> >> 2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
> >> 3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
> >> 4. A temp controlled wine closet
> >> 5. A walk-in Pantry.
> >>
> >> Yours?
> >>
> >> Dimitri
> >
> > More counter and cabinet space (with a better layout)
> > Decent cooker and hood
> > 'Cool room' for fermenting kimchi, sauerkraut, sourdoughs and storing
> > decent cheese etc
> > More electrical outlets (and a better circuit)
> > A walk-in fridge and similar freezer (LOL now that's real fantasy)
> >
>
> So what temperature does one keep a "cool room" for those purposes? I like
> the idea. One could probably accomplish this fairly easily with a through
> the wall air conditioner in a well-insulated room.
About 50--60 F or so. Warmer than a fridge and cooler than 'room temp'.
Most of the year the house is too hot; summer in the desert and
overheated (to my taste LOL) in the winter.
>
> As a mechanical/electrical engineer, my dad spent much of his career
> designing custom refrigeration and cooling systems that ranged in size from
> meat lockers to refrigerated sound stages in Hollywood. He was also
> involved in cooling systems for early computer rooms and systems. In our
> oldest home we had an 8' x 10' walk-in freezer in the basement and a 4' x
> 6' walk-in refrigerator in our kitchen. Both were a great place to visit
> in the summer, even though we had early generation central air. This was
> in the early to mid-fifties.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
You lucky thing! Really liked the 'cold rooms' from my lab days although
we didn't have walk-in freezers.
Anyway it's all fantasy. Just had a new roof and some siding put on so
no new kitchen for many years LOL.
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| Wayne Boatwright |
On Sat 02 Jul 2005 04:39:55p, Arri London wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> So what temperature does one keep a "cool room" for those purposes? I
>> like the idea. One could probably accomplish this fairly easily with a
>> through the wall air conditioner in a well-insulated room.
>
> About 50--60 F or so. Warmer than a fridge and cooler than 'room temp'.
> Most of the year the house is too hot; summer in the desert and
> overheated (to my taste LOL) in the winter.
Well, as I said, a window a/c or thru the wall a/c could do that for you in
a small room or subdivided space of a pantry, etc.
> You lucky thing! Really liked the 'cold rooms' from my lab days although
> we didn't have walk-in freezers.
> Anyway it's all fantasy. Just had a new roof and some siding put on so
> no new kitchen for many years LOL.
Arri, I know you've lived in many different places. Do you think you'll
remain in NM? We are southeast of Phoenix, so I know what you mean about
the desert, although we don't tend to overheat in the winter. It's 116°F
here today. I feel like I could cook on the driveway! :-)
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| Arri London |
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Sat 02 Jul 2005 04:39:55p, Arri London wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> >
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>
> >> So what temperature does one keep a "cool room" for those purposes? I
> >> like the idea. One could probably accomplish this fairly easily with a
> >> through the wall air conditioner in a well-insulated room.
> >
> > About 50--60 F or so. Warmer than a fridge and cooler than 'room temp'.
> > Most of the year the house is too hot; summer in the desert and
> > overheated (to my taste LOL) in the winter.
>
> Well, as I said, a window a/c or thru the wall a/c could do that for you in
> a small room or subdivided space of a pantry, etc.
We have neither a spare small room nor a pantry. Neither of such rooms
would be properly insulated to maintain a constant temp without using up
more electricity than we could pay for anyway LOL. The 'cool room' would
be much more posh....
>
> > You lucky thing! Really liked the 'cold rooms' from my lab days although
> > we didn't have walk-in freezers.
> > Anyway it's all fantasy. Just had a new roof and some siding put on so
> > no new kitchen for many years LOL.
>
> Arri, I know you've lived in many different places. Do you think you'll
> remain in NM? We are southeast of Phoenix, so I know what you mean about
> the desert, although we don't tend to overheat in the winter. It's 116°F
> here today. I feel like I could cook on the driveway! :-)
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
It's not a comfortable climate or altitude for me. Will *need* to remain
in NM for a long while to come. If I *could* I'd go home tomorrow :)
Anyway just got the roof fixed so might as well stay and see if it's
really leakproof now LOL.
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