| nancree |
>From today's Drudge Report:
"South Africa does not have a shark attack problem. It's always an
adjacent human activity that leads to a shark attack," said Andy Cobb
from South Africa's SharkProject."
Well,Duh !!! I never thought of that!
Adjacent human activity?? You mean the sharks come up on the beach to
attack humans?
Nancree
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| The Ranger |
nancree <nancree@aol.com> duhhed in message
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>From today's Drudge Report:
>
> "South Africa does not have a shark attack problem. It's
> always an adjacent human activity that leads to a shark
> attack," said Andy Cobb from South Africa's SharkProject."
>
> Well,Duh !!! I never thought of that!
>
> Adjacent human activity?? You mean the sharks come up
> on the beach to attack humans?
Damnation, you really _are_ as dense as a bowling ball!
Sharks do not attack humans without provocation: 1) by mistake (a surfer
on his/her board looks like a floating togo meal from below), 2) through
antagonistic ignorance (the prelude to attack is ignored or rebuffed),
or 3) through sonic attraction by slapping the water and floundering
about like a wounded animal.
As one shark expert from the Farallons once stated, "We've spice and
pickle ourselves right out of the food chain. We don't taste good enough
to get added to their regular menu."
There are several current books available on the subject of sharks...
Try reading more than a 10-second soundbyte regurgitation.
The Ranger
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| nancree |
Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
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| -L. |
nancree wrote:
> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
Because they are mistaken for prey. People do stupid stuff - they go
out in murky water (surfers are nortorious for this), at dusk or dawn
(prime feeding times), they swim in water where prey fish are present,
they wear sparkly jewelry, or they swim while bleeding. Then they
blame the shark.
Let me clue you in: Almost every documented case can be linked back to
mistaken identity. Here are just a few examples:
http://www.sharksurvivor.com/old/index.html
Sharks have no vengence against man (although they have cause to) and
they simply don't have the intelligence to do anything other than what
they do naturally - swim, feed and mate.
-L.
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| Sandi |
nancree wrote:
> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
1. The splashing and sloshing sound made by humans also happens to be
the same sound frequency that wounded prey animals make as they
flounder about. Irregular, low-frequency sounds attract sharks. Most
attractive sounds are in the frequency of 25 to 100 Hz. Some sharks are
attracted to sound sources from distances as great as 250 m (820
ft.).It's mistaken identity, not malicious intent.
2. Humans tend to ignore all the signs about them that could warn about
sharks in the area. The presence of large schools of sting rays,
favored food of some species. Swimming at dusk or dawn when sharks tend
to feed. Swimming in murky water where cases of mistaken identy often
occur.
Example: The shark attack in Boca Grande, Florida occured when large
schools of tarpon were in the area (it was also tarpon fishing
tournament all through June). Tarpon were followed into the Boca Grande
area by hammerhead sharks and bull sharks. Is it particularly
intelligent to go swimming at this time when sharks are moving in? Hell
no.
Again...listen to more than a 10 second sound bite. Educate yourself.
Sandi
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| The Ranger |
nancree <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
No, victims are given plenty of warning. Sharks use movement through the
water and threat-posturing as communicating the oncoming attack. Some
are stepped on (sand and lemon sharks) and react like any animal. Some
make the mistake of thinking the victims are aquatic mammals... The
signs are there; ignoring them won't make them go away.
The Ranger
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| jmcquown |
The Ranger wrote:
> nancree <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1120695979.620206.210790@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
>
> No, victims are given plenty of warning. Sharks use movement through
> the water and threat-posturing as communicating the oncoming attack.
> Some are stepped on (sand and lemon sharks) and react like any
> animal. Some make the mistake of thinking the victims are aquatic
> mammals... The signs are there; ignoring them won't make them go away.
>
> The Ranger
Which is why I stick to swimming pools ;)
Jill
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| Damsel |
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> said:
> The Ranger wrote:
> > nancree <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1120695979.620206.210790@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
They're warned. They just don't understand the signals when they see them.
> > No, victims are given plenty of warning. Sharks use movement through
> > the water and threat-posturing as communicating the oncoming attack.
> > Some are stepped on (sand and lemon sharks) and react like any
> > animal. Some make the mistake of thinking the victims are aquatic
> > mammals... The signs are there; ignoring them won't make them go away.
>
> Which is why I stick to swimming pools ;)
Which begs the question ... when was the most recent shark attack on a
Memphis shore? LOL! Sorry, Jill, you know I *had* to ask that!
Carol, trying to find a shark to hide behind
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Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon
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| jmcquown |
Damsel wrote:
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> said:
>
>> The Ranger wrote:
>>> nancree <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1120695979.620206.210790@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
>
> They're warned. They just don't understand the signals when they see
> them.
>
>>> No, victims are given plenty of warning. Sharks use movement through
>>> the water and threat-posturing as communicating the oncoming attack.
>>> Some are stepped on (sand and lemon sharks) and react like any
>>> animal. Some make the mistake of thinking the victims are aquatic
>>> mammals... The signs are there; ignoring them won't make them go
>>> away.
>>
>> Which is why I stick to swimming pools ;)
>
> Which begs the question ... when was the most recent shark attack on a
> Memphis shore? LOL! Sorry, Jill, you know I *had* to ask that!
>
> Carol, trying to find a shark to hide behind
LOL! Oddly enough there was an piece on the news a few nights about about
bull sharks in the Mississippi! They can apparently survive in fresh water
and sometimes swim up from the gulf. The report said something about them
being seen as far north as Missouri. Of course, no one in their right mind
would swim in the Mississippi. Must have been a slow news day.
Jill
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| sf |
On 6 Jul 2005 14:29:22 -0700, nancree wrote:
> >From today's Drudge Report:
>
> "South Africa does not have a shark attack problem. It's always an
> adjacent human activity that leads to a shark attack," said Andy Cobb
> from South Africa's SharkProject."
>
> Well,Duh !!! I never thought of that!
>
> Adjacent human activity?? You mean the sharks come up on the beach to
> attack humans?
>
I think Sherman's Lagoon illustrates that very nicely!
http://cgibin.rcn.com/fillmore.dnai...ectdate=6/18/05
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| Nexis |
"nancree" <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From today's Drudge Report:
>
> "South Africa does not have a shark attack problem. It's always an
> adjacent human activity that leads to a shark attack," said Andy Cobb
> from South Africa's SharkProject."
>
> Well,Duh !!! I never thought of that!
>
> Adjacent human activity?? You mean the sharks come up on the beach to
> attack humans?
>
> Nancree
What it means, Nancree, is that, as with the majority of animal "attacks" on
humans, the usual cause is the fault of the human. Humans invade their
territory, behave like prey, antagonize the animals, and then scratch their
head in confusion when they're "attacked". More often than not, a persons
contact with a shark can be attributed to either mistaken identity (it
thinks you are a harbor seal or other prey), or antagonistic behavior on the
part of the human.
It also helps to keep things in perspective. There were approximately 1,969
recorded shark attacks, with approximately 464 of them fatal in the entire
world. Sounds like a lot? Perhaps. Until you realize that is between the
years 1580-2004. More than 400 years. By contrast, in a single year there
were 38 MILLION injuries, and approximately 1.2 million deaths due to
automobiles. Meaning, of course, that you are far more likely to die on your
way to the water than you are by shark attack. You're also more likely to
drown or have a heart attack in the water.
Annual deaths from lightning is 30 times greater than the number of shark
"attacks".
kimberly
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| -L. |
Nexis wrote:
> What it means, Nancree, is that, as with the majority of animal "attacks" on
> humans, the usual cause is the fault of the human. Humans invade their
> territory, behave like prey, antagonize the animals, and then scratch their
> head in confusion when they're "attacked".
> >
Same goes for dogs. 99% of dog bites are preventable.
-L.
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| Sandi |
jmcquown wrote:
> Damsel wrote:
> > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> said:
> >
> >> The Ranger wrote:
> >>> nancree <nancree@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1120695979.620206.210790@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> Pretty silly. Lots of victims are attacked without warning.
> >
> > They're warned. They just don't understand the signals when they see
> > them.
> >
> >>> No, victims are given plenty of warning. Sharks use movement through
> >>> the water and threat-posturing as communicating the oncoming attack.
> >>> Some are stepped on (sand and lemon sharks) and react like any
> >>> animal. Some make the mistake of thinking the victims are aquatic
> >>> mammals... The signs are there; ignoring them won't make them go
> >>> away.
> >>
> >> Which is why I stick to swimming pools ;)
> >
> > Which begs the question ... when was the most recent shark attack on a
> > Memphis shore? LOL! Sorry, Jill, you know I *had* to ask that!
> >
> > Carol, trying to find a shark to hide behind
>
> LOL! Oddly enough there was an piece on the news a few nights about about
> bull sharks in the Mississippi! They can apparently survive in fresh water
> and sometimes swim up from the gulf. The report said something about them
> being seen as far north as Missouri. Of course, no one in their right mind
> would swim in the Mississippi. Must have been a slow news day.
>
> Jill
Bull shartks have been as far north as Cairo. IL. These are the "fresh
water sharks" that are found in Lake Nicaragua. The lake is not
landlocked and the sharks have actually been observed moving in and out
of the lake. They are also found in the Zambezi, Ganges, and the
Amazon.
Info courtesey of the budding marine biologist in the house and her
extensive collection of books and websites on shark habitat and
behavior. She was thrilled, BTW, that on her last scuba diving trip to
the Caribbean she saw sharks in the wild on two separate dives.
Sandi
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| Nexis |
"-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Nexis wrote:
>> What it means, Nancree, is that, as with the majority of animal "attacks"
>> on
>> humans, the usual cause is the fault of the human. Humans invade their
>> territory, behave like prey, antagonize the animals, and then scratch
>> their
>> head in confusion when they're "attacked".
>> >
>
> Same goes for dogs. 99% of dog bites are preventable.
>
> -L.
It's like when I lived in Alaska and this teenaged boy was mauled by a bear.
Everyone blamed the bear. Nevermind that the boy and his friend, who were
hunting illegally, came upon the sleeping bear in it's den and the one who
was mauled proceeded to hit it in the face with the butt of his rifle "to
see if it was dead or hibernating". Huh? The level of stupidity is
frightening.
I blame it on man's eternal arrogance. Humans seem to think we have some
kind of right to whatever we want on this planet, which is why so many
species have been driven to extinction.
kimberly
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| -L. |
Nexis wrote:
>
> It's like when I lived in Alaska and this teenaged boy was mauled by a bear.
> Everyone blamed the bear. Nevermind that the boy and his friend, who were
> hunting illegally, came upon the sleeping bear in it's den and the one who
> was mauled proceeded to hit it in the face with the butt of his rifle "to
> see if it was dead or hibernating". Huh? The level of stupidity is
> frightening.
> I blame it on man's eternal arrogance. Humans seem to think we have some
> kind of right to whatever we want on this planet, which is why so many
> species have been driven to extinction.
>
> kimberly
I call that Natural Selection - the kid is lucky he came out alive at
all.
-L.
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| OmManiPadmeOmelet |
In article <1120990837.266215.124500@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote:
> Nexis wrote:
> >
> > It's like when I lived in Alaska and this teenaged boy was mauled by a bear.
> > Everyone blamed the bear. Nevermind that the boy and his friend, who were
> > hunting illegally, came upon the sleeping bear in it's den and the one who
> > was mauled proceeded to hit it in the face with the butt of his rifle "to
> > see if it was dead or hibernating". Huh? The level of stupidity is
> > frightening.
> > I blame it on man's eternal arrogance. Humans seem to think we have some
> > kind of right to whatever we want on this planet, which is why so many
> > species have been driven to extinction.
> >
> > kimberly
>
> I call that Natural Selection - the kid is lucky he came out alive at
> all.
>
> -L.
>
Candidate for a future Darwin award no doubt. ;-)
--
Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
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-L. wrote:
> Nexis wrote:
> >
> > It's like when I lived in Alaska and this teenaged boy was mauled by a bear.
> > Everyone blamed the bear. Nevermind that the boy and his friend, who were
> > hunting illegally, came upon the sleeping bear in it's den and the one who
> > was mauled proceeded to hit it in the face with the butt of his rifle "to
> > see if it was dead or hibernating". Huh? The level of stupidity is
> > frightening.
> > I blame it on man's eternal arrogance. Humans seem to think we have some
> > kind of right to whatever we want on this planet, which is why so many
> > species have been driven to extinction.
> >
> > kimberly
>
> I call that Natural Selection - the kid is lucky he came out alive at
> all.
>
> -L.
A failed attempt at chlorinating the gene pool.
Sandi
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| Nexis |
"-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Nexis wrote:
>>
>> It's like when I lived in Alaska and this teenaged boy was mauled by a
>> bear.
>> Everyone blamed the bear. Nevermind that the boy and his friend, who were
>> hunting illegally, came upon the sleeping bear in it's den and the one
>> who
>> was mauled proceeded to hit it in the face with the butt of his rifle "to
>> see if it was dead or hibernating". Huh? The level of stupidity is
>> frightening.
>> I blame it on man's eternal arrogance. Humans seem to think we have some
>> kind of right to whatever we want on this planet, which is why so many
>> species have been driven to extinction.
>>
>> kimberly
>
> I call that Natural Selection - the kid is lucky he came out alive at
> all.
>
> -L.
The kid had some stitches, and likely some scarring. The bear, meanwhile,
was killed. It was infuriating.
kimberly
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